KRV is now mainstream. Is that good for Kannada?

PRITHVI DATTA CHANDRA SHOBHI writes: The 77th Kannada sahitya sammelana ended in Bangalore on Sunday.  Everything—the speeches, the controversies, the complaints, the compliments, the arrangements—has been seen, heard and watched.

Here are seven trends that you may have missed:

1. Make no mistake and we suspect this will be ‘the’ legacy of the 77th sahitya sammelana: the Karnataka Rakshana Vedike (KaRaVe) has entered the mainstream of Kannada cultural conversation. This would not have happened had the sammelana been held anywhere else but Bangalore where the organising capabilities of KaRaVe meant they were given several key responsibilities.

We heard that KaRaVe organized the procession on the first day when Prof. G.Venkakatasubbaiah was brought to the National College Grounds. We noticed that key KaRaVe activists were present almost everywhere and playing a key role in the background.

What this might mean for Kannada is a matter for another day.

However we want to note a simple development. Since it has now become fashionable to sport the red/orange KaRaVe neckwear, we have been seeing a different kind of saffronisation of the Kannada cultural space. Somewhat regrettable in our mind, given the aggressive, masculine connotations that the neckwear carries.

2. Prof. G. Venkatasubbaiah’s presidential address was a superb antidote to this general aggressiveness of the Kannada chaluvali. Even if we don’t agree with everything he said, we can be immensely proud of this: that we chose a 98-year-old lexicographer to address us, offer his vision of Kannada’s future and he lived up to our expectations.

Not only was his remarkable energy and gentle conduct throughout the sammelana an inspiration, I was even more impressed by the way he addressed the task on hand, with great civility and decency, which was a credit to the Kannadiga spirit.

His gentle but precise comments on the decline of political morality in Karnataka were spot on. He wasn’t raising hell. He didn’t sound anxious or insecure. On the contrary, he sounded confident and fearless, someone ready to get to work. Exactly, what we need and how we ought to act.

3. Most Bangaloreans wondered why the sammelana wasn’t organized in the sprawling Palace grounds. Informed speculation honed in on the fact that National College grounds in Basavanagudi falls under the Bangalore of R. Ashok, home minister and chair of the organizing committee, whereas choosing palace grounds would have brought Katta Subramanya Naidu and Shobha Karandlaje into the limelight. Perhaps, there is some merit in this twisted logic.

4. Electrifying is an adjective often used, without much justification. So I won’t use it describe the three days of the sahitya sammelana. We didn’t hear any electrifying speeches or witness unforgettable performances.

Still, the response to the sammelana was overwhelming. We estimated roughly 300,000 people visited the venue each day and this was perhaps because it has been 40 years since the previous sammelana in Bangalore.

Moreover, the media attention added glamour and brought intensity to the event. Each of the major newspapers and television channels had 8-10 journalists reporting. We will not vouch for the accuracy of their reporting though.

5. This intense focus seems to have led to an interesting new demand: that the sammelana be organized in Bangalore at least once in four or five years. This was the chatter on day one, much before the chair of the organising committee, R. Ashok, made the demand official.

The logic behind the demand is a simple one: if the sammelana were to be a more frequent occurrence in Bangalore City, then there would be less of a stampede.

Moreover, there are other compelling reasons to hold the sammelana in Bnagalore more often. Nearly, one-sixth of the population of Karnataka resides in Bangalore. Further, the city is also the centre of media and government, which will only help the Kannada Sahithya Parishat to get the necessary support, from both the state and society, to effectively respond the needs of Kannada language, society and culture.

In any case, Bangalore is the epicentre for the most of the challenges Kannada is facing and so if the City were to host the sammelana more frequently it would only help the cause of Kannada.

6. In fact, this demand should make us rethink the process of selecting cities to host the sammelana. Perhaps, it is time for the Kannada Sahithya Parishat to come up with a well thought out and widely publicised criteria to pick the host cities.

For example, along with Bangalore, border districts of north Karnataka in particular could have priority as the Sahithya Parishat seeks to find a regional balance in the selection.

7. Amidst all the cultural performances and socializing, clearly, the highlight of the sammelana was the book exhibition. The stalls were packed with book buyers of all ages and many authors added star quality. Several unconfirmed reports put the book sales at three crore rupees at the very least, and the book exhibition has been extended for two more days.

In our humble opinion, majority of the exhibitors didn’t reciprocate the attention they were getting. Even though the exhibitors had come from all parts of Karnataka, the majority of the big stalls were quite similar in that they all had the same stock and offered the standard 10% discount, which some book buyers thought was inadequate. Of course, the exceptions were the University publications and Kannada Sahithya Parishat, whose publications are subsidized by state support.

I found a Kannada translation of the 12th century Sanskrit work Manasollasa by Someshvara III, the Chalukya emperor. This, for the nerd in me, was the most exciting moment of the conference. I got to stress this because a journalist who spoke to me about my impressions reported the exact opposite of what I had mentioned.

At a purely personal level, the sammelana gave yours truly a opportunity to explore all the old tiffin rooms of Basavanagudi, Gandhi bazaar and Chamarajpet. In particular, we should give a shout out to New Modern Hotel and Mahalakshmi tiffin room.

We also saw several TV performers (actors, singers and reality show participants) at the sammelana. They were all mobbed, seemed to revel in the attention, and had a spring in their steps. Compared to the littérateurs, their eyes twinkled and perhaps, this is one sign of the future.

Photograph: Prof G. Venkatasubbaiah, the president of 77th all India Kannada sahitya sammelana, at a book stall at the conference venue, the National College Grounds, in Bangalore on Sunday. (Karnataka Photo News)

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63 Responses to “KRV is now mainstream. Is that good for Kannada?”

  1. Priyank Says:

    The procession was very impressive. Some newspaper reports put the book sales at the Sammelana at 8 crore. Looking at the number of people who thronged these book stalls, and the queues to buy books, makes me believe that the 8 crore sales might have been hit.

    Also, I agree with the author that sporting a red/orange neckwear has become fashionable. Many young Kannadigas were seen at the sammelana wearing red/orange neckwear proudly.

  2. Yella Ok Says:

    Very good article marred by a bad title – why focus on KRV, why not some other thought provoking title “Should Sahitya Sammelana be held once every five years in Bengaluru”? The title suggests that churumuri wants to play the populist hand when the article is much beyond that.

    I second many observations in the article – KRV organising the procession raised an eyebrow, I wanted the sammelana in Bengaluru once every five years for reasons mentioned in the article, next time the sammelana should be held in palace grounds – larger, more approachable to people across the city, and will reach out to non-kannadigas. The article will also inspire me to seek out and read the full text of the presidential address. GV’s conduct was impressive and I was fearing for his health amidst the crowd and the dust.

    Once more, congrats to churumuri and PDCS for the article, which would proably not have been received in any mainstream English media.

    PDCS – You must write more often in mainstream English media of Karnataka. English media in bengaluru badly requires kannada minds able to write well in English as well – we must remember that there is a significant population of kannadigas who (unfortunately) can only be reached through English!!

  3. Ramesh Rao Says:

    Definitely, it will be good for Kannada, Kannadiga and Karnataka.

    They were the ones who fought for “Shastriya Bhashe”, they were the ones who fought for “Cauvery”, they were the ones who fought when employment (4701 in number) for “D” group in railways were sabotaged by biharis and Up ites, they were the ones who stood for the social cause when North Karnataka was flood hit, they were the ones who are fighting for the land in Hogenakal when TN is trying to illegetimately appropriate it, they are the one who raised their voice when Krishna tribunal report came out and Karnataka was in loss of 101 TMC of water, they were the ones who stood against installation of Tiruvalluvar statue when the BJP govt did a cheap gimic of installing it for tamil votes.

    And I strongly believe they will be the ones whom Kannadigas have to look for, if at all we look for progress and development of Kannada, Kanandiga and Karnataka.

  4. Venki Says:

    The sammelana was successful in reigniting the minds of Bengalurina kannadigaru. These Kannadigas are so self occupied that they have no time to think about their language and it’s fate in a city increasingly getting bombarded from the onslaught of non kannadiga migrants. Such events, sammelanas and sheer number of people it draws helps in awakening these “sattantiha” kannadigaru.

    Any sammelana’s success is partly measured on the success of procession and KRV did a fantastic job of organising a colorful, vibrant, so full of life procession for the legend. It reminded me of my good old days at Mysuru Dasara where sitting on the shoulders of my dad, I used to watch the procession. Not to forget, it’s very very important that every now and then, there should be such show of strength of Kannada, Kannadigas be depicted on the streets of Bengaluru and KRV’s pukka professional arrangements just did that.

    Come on guys, let’s not oppose for the sake of opposition. First ever time, KRV has done something for which even Prof GV was full of praises. Let’s not oppose something just for the sake of opposition.

    ಸಾಹಿತಿಗಳ ಧ್ವನಿ ಎಷ್ಟು ಮುಖ್ಯವೋ ಅಷ್ಟೇ ಮುಖ್ಯ ಬೀದಿ ಹೋರಾಟಗಳ ಮೂಲಕ ಜನನಾಯಕರನ್ನು ಎಚ್ಚರಿಸುವ ಕೆಲಸ. ಗೋಕಾಕ್ ಚಳುವಳಿಗೆ ಒಂದು ವೇಗ ದೊರಕಿದ್ದೇ ರಾಜಕುಮಾರ್ ಬೀದಿಗಿಳಿದಾಗ ಹೊರತು ಕೆಲವು ಸಾಹಿತಿಗಳು ಹೇಳಿಕೆ ಕೊಟ್ಟಾಗಲಲ್ಲ. ಹೀಗಾಗಿ ಕನ್ನಡ, ಕನ್ನಡಿಗರ ಬದುಕಿನ ಎಲ್ಲ ಪ್ರಶ್ನೆಗಳನ್ನು ಉತ್ತರಿಸಲು ಎರಡೂ ಬೇಕು.

  5. Ramesh Says:

    Extortion gang got It. Undeserved and criminal treatment …

  6. Jayaprakash Says:

    I would like to thank the author for highlighting very good observations of the recent Sahitya Sammelana, held in our Bengaluru. As the author has rightly said, KRV is definitely into mainstream and has demonstrated its organization capability to arrange such a big and well-organized procession. I too witnessed the whole procession and was surprised to see the discipline in the members who were participating in the procession.

    I seriously feel that this kind of a management wouldn’t have been possible if only Kannada Saahitya Parishad had taken its responsibility. It requires a strong organizational capability to do some thing like that. I was wondering what could happen if the same KRV expands its capability to a operate at a regional political party’s level. The mere strength and commitment of KRV activists can bring enormous changes in the way things get implemented in Karnataka.

  7. Amarnath Says:

    I would appreciate the editor of churmuri and the writer of this article for having observed KRV’s intense involvement in the 77th kannada saahitya sammelana. KRV has done a lot of swaabhimaani kannadigara samaavesha’s till now and the way their processions happen or the way in which they prepare themselves for the samaavesha’s are known to everybody. They are extremely successful and capable of doing such stuff.. The organizers and the president of 77th kannada saahitya sammelana prof.G.venkatasubbaiah have appreciated KRV’s efforts in making the procession a stupendous success.
    KRV has a pro kannada agenda which is good for kannadigas and karnataka as a whole..
    Am extremely happy that they are in the mainstream now..
    In the coming days, I would love to see KRV utilizing many such oppurtunities are work for the betterment of 6 crore kannadigas.

  8. div Says:

    I am neither against “sahitya” nor against “sahitya sammelana”…however, how about starting a Karnataka science fair to encourage science in the state, to encourage studies of science in Kannada? Sahithya, like movies, cannot change an economy, but science, when done properly has a huge potential. Japan and South Korea are examples of what science can do to a third world country.

  9. arjun Says:

    Dude, you have gone nuts?

    define saffronisation first!

  10. Mysore Peshva Says:

    *Yella OK*

    You write, “The title suggests that churumuri wants to play the populist hand when the article is much beyond that.”

    Well, Wickham Steed, former editor of The Times (London) and in his own words “an unrepentant journalist,” once proclaimed that the first commandment of the journalistic decalogue is “Thou shalt not be dull.” :)

  11. Not A Witty Nick Says:

    Who are we to prevent KaRaVe members from participating in the festivities?

    My grouse is about the ugly flex boards installed outside KaSaPa building and KaRaVe carrying their banners during the procession, they should not have been allowed to carry that.

  12. Deepak Says:

    Unfortunate that KRV is getting too much of importance. This ‘so-called’ organisation is just an organised thuggery. On what basis where they given the rights to organise the procession? But atleast from now, hopefully KRV will be more of a mainstream organisation and do something good instead of goondaism.

    Also, I don’t understand why the author should bring ‘saffronisation’ into this? What is the connection? Probably this is an attempt of the author to prove that he belongs to the ‘liberal club’….lol

  13. mounaprasad Says:

    Only a person who is color blind will say the neckwear worn by karave members is red/orange, while in reality it is red and yellow siginifying the color of Karnataka flag…so much for denigrating karave and getting even simple facts wrong ;)

  14. Amarnath Says:

    I am observing KRV and the way they operate for almost a decade now..
    The key factor which deserves a lot of appreciation is their “professionalism and commitment to deliver stuff”
    They take up issues which make a huge impact to kannada-kannadiga-karnataka. They fight it out till a positive result is achieved. Their course of action during the cauvery tribunal verdict and making sure that the gazette is not passed is something which we can never forget about..
    No political party spoke about the krishna tribunal verdict but when KRV opened up that we have lost 100 TMC of water, our politicians got enlightened to some extent..
    Some how, KRV is virtually leading the state politics from the front in fighting for the betterment of the state..
    I still remember KRV president T.A.Narayana Gowda saying that the Global investors meet is a positive sign which can pump in good amount of investments thus taking the karnataka economy to the highest level, but he also said that the government should ensure that the agricultural land should be untouched and the barren land should be acquired only with full consent of farmers.Thats another indication of how KRV is in favor of globalization and also cares for farmers, who feed us everyday.
    This balance of thoughts and vision is rarely seen in most of the political parties.
    Given a chance to talk to KRV’s supremo, I would request him to come up with a strategy to launch KRV in Karnataka’s political arena!!!

  15. Nija Says:

    You title your post like this – “KRV is now mainstream. Is that good for Kannada?” and then in the body you say “What this might mean for Kannada is a matter for another day.”

    Now, Shobhi, what exactly do you suggest we understand from this – that the discussion is temporarily postponed to this ‘another day’?

    BTW, I dont concur on your saffronization funda, neither do you seem to be aware how many ladies join KRV’s engagements with the same dual-colour ‘neckwear’.. its a pity you seem to be associating KRV with things that its rivals have successfully demonized it with. And you seem to have bought into that theory!! How sad.

  16. ಕನ್ನಡಾಭಿಮಾನಿ Says:

    @Deepak – On what basis should they not be given the rights to organize the procession?
    Let me answer toy your question now. Karave has successfully done a lot of samaveshas’s(which you can have a glance on their website) and the processions all the time has been top notch. Having seen their ability to carry our the procession which depicts our folk dances,the culture and diversity of karnataka, they were given this RIGHT to organize the procession.
    Now that people who were hating Karave all these days have no logical justification as to why they should not have been given this chance.
    I would have accepted your question had the procession been a disaster.
    Now that the kannada organization has got a lot of appreciation for having organized the procession in a fantastic way from sammelana president Prof GV, Kasapa president Nallur prasad, home minister R Ashok, from many other ppl who spoke on the dias, few people who hate Karave for the sake of hating are not able to digest this.
    ha ha.Its so funny to see people trying their best to put karave down, but they are growing in their magnitude and potential day by day.

  17. shankar Says:

    Karave members wearing ornage /red neckwear ? LOL

    The author is colour blind.He does not know about the history of the Kannada Flag ( which is Red / yellow in colour , never safforn ) & is pontificating on kannada nadu & its culture here.

    May be karave should get his eyes tested for free. By bringing in saffronisation, where none exists he is just trying to prove his succular credentials..

    Classic case of the proverbial ” Kaamaaale kannu ” here.. only difference being the end result being saffron instead of yellow!! what a pity that churumuri cant even get the basics of a flags colour right !

  18. Ganesh Says:

    KRV has been spearheading the cause of Kannada-Kannadiga-Karnataka for a decade now. Kannada media has understood that KRV is mainstream for a couple of years now. It is good that the English media realizes it now.

  19. Sanjeeva Says:

    Definitely it is good for Kannada, Karnataka and Kannadigaru. But what is this ‘Kannada cultural conversation’?! By the way, the chaluvali is not aggressive but assertive, which is very essential and correct.

  20. Sanjeeva Says:

    Poorly written piece, all blah blah without any head or tail. ‘Sammelana gives an opportunity to explore tiffin rooms’. My god, what a small brain and narrow vision you have sir.

  21. Complex Says:

    No I don’t want a ShivSena/MNS in Bangalore. I hope educated people recognize that they are goondas. So, what if they organize a procession well? Do they get license for doing goondaism? They need to understand that keeping peace is a necessity if you want companies to attract talent from all over India. If IT/BT companies go, all these KaRaVe extortionists will become unemployed.

  22. Yella Ok Says:

    @ Mysore Peshwa – Well, I am only asking – is being “populist”, “provacative”, and “trvialising” the only way to be not “dull”, and is KRV the single most important point of discussion to merit a title. The title has led most of hte discussion to be around KRV, which is sad.

  23. AC Says:

    Very bad for Kannada. KRV is a criminal organisation. It is a KKK of Kannada.

  24. Deepak Says:

    @ಕನ್ನಡಾಭಿಮಾನಿ – Isn’t there a Kannada Abhivriddhi Pradhikara headed by Mukhya Mantri Chandru? Shouldn’t they have been allowed to manage the whole show?
    KRV is just the successor to Vatal Nagaraj. How can a private proprietorship organisation be given the task of managing a procession of the Sahitya Sammelana?

    And as far as KRV’s experience in organising Samaveshas, every political party has done that and can do that, what’s great about that?

    Can you please share with us any good thing that KRV has done for Kannada, apart from rabble-rousing?

    Has it done anything to promote Kannada in private schools? Has it done anything to promote reading of Kannada books? Did it offer financial help to Kannada writers, artistes social reformers, etc who need it? Has it made IT/MNCs to employ more Kannadigas? Forget IT, has it done ‘anything at all’ to help Kannadigas flourish? Has it made the Railways change its recruitment policies? Biharis and UPites are swarming Bangalore and have taken over the construction workers space, has KRV even given a thought about what this means to Kannadigas? Has KRV opened any school/started an initative to motivate non-Kannadigas learn Kannada?

    Geleya, if you can prove that the answers to the above question is yes, I will take back my words and become a fan of KRV!

  25. Jayaprakash Says:

    @Complex – There is a difference between “educated” and “literate”. The literate might read, write, see, and hear stories and rumors, but an educated person really thinks, understands the background, cause, commitment, practicality of making things happen before he/she could judge and conclude about any one.

    I bet you have a great scope for learning and get educated truly.

  26. shankar Says:

    @complex, can u document how much extortion money the IT/BT companies are paying to karave ? any proof?

    and why should an ordinary kannadiga of bangalore care if companies are unable to attract talent?

  27. Nija Says:

    @Deepak,

    You know what – you seem to be eerily bang on target(s) on all accounts there. KRV has indeed done all those things (starting with helping Kannada medium schools etc..) – so it is a big YES for all those things, and much more. I wonder if you’ve even taken a look at KRV’s website and related material on the web.

  28. Ramesh Rao Says:

    @ Deepak

    Should you care to look at my previous comment, you will find some answers.

    I feel your thoughts are very shallow and based on heresay. Please delve into subject you are talking about and don’t indulge in rumour mongering.

    May I assist you in your education; go through karave dot blogspot dot com.

  29. Chetan Says:

    @Deepak,

    I think KRV has worked in all the areas that you mentioned i.e. for promoting kannada in CBSE it has raised voice against the governemt and Central government for not making kannada a compusary subject.
    http://karave.blogspot.com/search/label/%E0%B2%B6%E0%B2%BF%E0%B2%95%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%B7%E0%B2%A3%20%2F%20Education

    It has come up with a book publishing company for promoting kannada writers, KRV has financially supported families of forgotten kannada fighters.
    http://karave.blogspot.com/search/label/%E0%B2%AA%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%B0%E0%B2%95%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%B6%E0%B2%A8%20%2F%20Publishing

    Yes it has riased voice against all the MNC’s and ITs for not recruitng local people and the after effect was that you could see more nubmer of kannadigas in all the companies.

    One of the biggest recent achievement of KRV is that because of its voice agianst filling biharis and UPites in karnataka railway department, in 2010 the centre has made a law that local people will get more percentage of reservations for the locals.

    http://www.karnatakarakshanavedike.org/modes/news/12/railway-kannagigara–nemakatigagi-horata.html
    http://karave.blogspot.com/search/label/%E0%B2%B0%E0%B3%88%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%B5%E0%B3%87%20%2F%20Railway

    KRV has adopted many kannada schools, which the government was planning to close.
    http://karave.blogspot.com/search/label/%E0%B2%B8%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%AE%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%9C%E0%B2%BF%E0%B2%95%20%E0%B2%95%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%B3%E0%B2%9C%E0%B2%BF%20%2F%20Social%20Contribution

    Hope this helps you to get some idea about KRV’s work.

  30. Priyank Says:

    @Deepak,

    Speaking from an observer’s position, the procession was well organized and impressive. Does it really matter who organizes it? How well the procession came out to be is what one should be interested in, isn’t it?

  31. Deepak Rao Says:

    @deepak,

    ” Has it made the Railways change its recruitment policies ”

    Ka.Ra.Ve ensured the railiway examinations be conducted in Kannada also specially for Group ” D ” positions. This was later taken by MNS also. Ka.Ra.Ve hortate ensure many Kannada mediumd students can take the exam.

    ” Has it made IT/MNCs to employ more Kannadigas ”

    Yes the demands have made the IT industry realise that they cannot throw mud on Kannadigas and the nonsense to conitue. They have been pushing for Sarojini Mahishi report implementation also.

    ” Did it offer financial help to Kannada writers, artistes social reformers, etc who need it ”

    plenty of times. They are the only organisation who do it.

    Before you mouth off opinions do some reading, research and then come and post.

    Ka.Ra.Ve fought on the Belagavi issue, Hogennakal issue, Krishna River water sharing, Kalasa Bandoori issue, Classical language issue, nameboard issue in Bengaluru and so on on.

  32. Shilpa Says:

    Only KaRaVe could’ve done something this big. They’re the ones who fight for our causes.
    Cheers to KaRaVe!

  33. Sanjeeva Says:

    Jayaprakash – I agree with you.
    Complex: Why the guilty complex? Why are you scared?! Not only you, everybody wants peace. Talk of IT BT companies leaving is going on for years. None has gone. Why this empty threat? Why they should be afraid for no reason? Has KaRaVe attacked any IT BT company so far? Everybody wants a livelihood like you and no one demands a job at the cost of others.

  34. Ramesh Bhat Says:

    @Deepak

    I don’t know if you have the knowledge of browsing a website. If you are not aware, please make the beginning by browsing this website, and if possible, please read it completely.

    Has it done anything to promote Kannada in private schools?
    Has it done anything to promote reading of Kannada books?
    –> http://karave.blogspot.com/2010/06/bbmp-shaaleyalli-hindi-krv-pratibhatane.html

    Did it offer financial help to Kannada writers, artistes social reformers, etc who need it?
    –> If you had attended any of the KRV meets, samaveshas, you wouldn’t not have asked these questions at all. Anyway, please go through these photos and the description of each photo at:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/karave/

    Has it made IT/MNCs to employ more Kannadigas?
    –> http://karave.blogspot.com/search/label/%E0%B2%89%E0%B2%A6%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%AF%E0%B3%8B%E0%B2%97%20%2F%20Employment

    Forget IT, has it done ‘anything at all’ to help Kannadigas flourish?
    –> http://karave.blogspot.com/search/label/%E0%B2%B8%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%AE%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%9C%E0%B2%BF%E0%B2%95%20%E0%B2%95%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%B3%E0%B2%9C%E0%B2%BF%20%2F%20Social%20Contribution

    Has it made the Railways change its recruitment policies? Biharis and UPites are swarming Bangalore and have taken over the construction workers space, has KRV even given a thought about what this means to Kannadigas?
    –> http://karave.blogspot.com/search/label/%E0%B2%B0%E0%B3%88%E0%B2%B2%E0%B3%8D%E0%B2%B5%E0%B3%87%20%2F%20Railway

    Has KRV opened any school/started an initative to motivate non-Kannadigas learn Kannada?
    –> http://karave.blogspot.com/2009/06/kannada-shaalegala-dattu-krv-dikhse.html

    Plus, this link:

    –> http://karnatakarakshanavedike.org/modes/news/15/krv-2009.html

  35. Complex Says:

    @Jayaprakash

    Thanks for the suggestion. I came across this, http://www.deccanherald.com/content/133993/five-krv-men-held-dacoity.html . Your opinion please?

  36. kannadiga Says:

    ಅಧ್ಯಕ್ಷೀಯ ಭಾಷಣದ ಪೂರ್ಣಪಾಠದ ಇಂಗ್ಲಿಷ್ ಅನುವಾದ ಎಲ್ಲಾದರೂ ಸಿಗುತ್ತದೆಯೇ? ನನ್ನ ಪರಭಾಷಿಗ ಮಿತ್ರರು ಕೇಳುತ್ತಿದ್ದಾರೆ. ಅವರ ಈ ಆಸಕ್ತಿ ಪೂರೈಸಲು ಅನುವಾದಿಸುವಾ ಎಂದರೆ ನನಗೆ ಇಂಗ್ಲಿಷ್ ಭಾಷೆಯ ಮೇಲೆ ಅಷ್ಟು ಹಿಡಿತವಾಗಲೀ, ಅನುವಾದಿಸಲು ಸಮಯವಾಗಲೀ ಇಲ್ಲ.. ದಯಮಾಡಿ ಯಾರಾದರೂ ಸಹಕರಿಸುವಿರೇ…….

    ದತ್ತಚಂದ್ರಶೋಭಿಯವರ ಬಳಿ ಇದಕ್ಕೆ ಸಮಯವಿದೆಯೇ.. ಚುರುಮುರಿಯವರು ದಯವಿಟ್ಟು ಇತ್ತ ಗಮನ ಹರಿಸಿ..

  37. Prashanth Says:

    I am surprised that none of the commenters here have pointed out the nature of protests adopted by KRV. While I completely understand that KRV is entitled to its views and opinions and I am in fact for them trying to promote their view points.

    But indulging in painting black the english boards or vandalizing schools not teaching Kannada as a language, which they clearly have indulged in, and proof of which can be amply found in the pages of KRV that the commenters above allude to, is according to me simply not acceptable. These simply put, amounts to utilizing force which doesn’t augur well for the future. My principled opposition to KRV is not about their viewpoints, which at times might seem rational, rather it is towards the means adopted to push them through.

    I am certain that many of the above who have commented are completely in agreement about the means adopted by KRV and for all of them, I can only say that a society which allows for force to be a valid means of furthering ones viewpoint, need not wait for long before one is at the receiving end of it.

    What KRV is today, is true of any political organization in our country, right from the student unions to the trade unions and its allied political parties. The only greater shame is the sanction of the common man to these acts of atrocities and usage of physical force.

  38. Vinay Says:

    shankar:

    I am an “ordinary Kannadiga” in Bangalore, and I certainly care if companies are not able to attract talent.

  39. Chetan Says:

    @Prashant,

    I don’t think painting the English boards with black color is some sort of vandalizing public property. I hope you agree to the point that most of the flex with English advertisements have not followed the rules that ‘Kannada font should be more that English fonts in any hoarding or board displayed for commercial purpose in Karnataka’ according to Karnataka Labor Act 1956.

    I dont think KRV has vandalized any school’s property or staff. Instead they have protested against not complying the rules.

  40. Amarnath Says:

    @Deepak – Your post doesnt make even a bit of sense but I can sense your hatred for KRV. You have it running in your veins and blood.
    Let me come to the point. If kannada abhivruddhi praadhikara was not given the duty to organize the procession, whats the point in blaming KRV. You should rather question the karnataka sahitya parishat or the government who are the stakeholders in this sammelana.
    By the way, we know what great things kannada abhiruddhi praadhikara has been doing for years now. They aren’t able to get the English hoardings removed and get them replaced by kannada hoardings. Though they have legal powers, they are not able to make kannada mandatory in state government administration where every IAS and IPS officer MUST be in a position to write in kannada. However, am not trying to focus as what KDA is not capable of.
    Kannada chaLuvali has been a integral part of our state’s history. Right from the time of yekikirana itihaasa where people like Hutatma Ramzan saab,M.Govinda pai, Andanappa doddameti, H.S.Doreswami, and many more respected people fought for the state formation on the lines of the language spoken.
    Kannada chaLuvali was very active in the 1960′s and 70′s where the chauvinistic tamil organizations including the DMK were taking to grab Bengaluru. Thats when people like An.naa.krishnaraayaru, Maa.ramamurthy, Vatal Nagaraj were literally climbing on the flag posts and pulled out the DMK, rather tamil flags to install the kannada flag which was designed by late Maa.Ramamurthy.
    There was a situation when tamil ladies used to throw hot water and oil on the people who took part in kannada rajyotsava processions in Okalipura or Sriramapura or Halasooru areas. Dr.Rajkumar abhimaanigaLa sangha took over the kannada para chaLuvali after the times of Anaakru and Ma.ramamurthy.
    And for the last 10 years, its KRV headed by Mr.Narayana Gowda who are spearheading the kannada chaLuvali.
    Your baseless comments and explanations sounds like a fantastic joke to me. If you come across the website of Karnataka Rakshana vedike, you can see what all they have been doing for years now. There are many posts in this chain regarding what they have done and how has all that benefited the KKK cause. I am really not interested to dig into each and every achievement of KRV again as you dont seem to digest the fact.

    @ Complex – Dude..take a chill pill. You have no right to blame someone without having sufficient data to justify that. If you have the data about the extortions KRV has done according to you, why haven’t you questioned it legally? We need mahaa gnaani’s like you to enlighten the 6 crore kannada population. If you have the stats of what KRV has done to disturb peace in Karnataka, kindly provide such information and enlighten the folks out here, yet again.
    Making an allegation without evidence and proof is the most helpless act, one could execute to show their frustration against somebody whom they hate. I am least bothered if somebody likes or hates KRV or any organization for that matter. But when you are making allegations in public, provide the justification so that you don’t really become a mockery in front of educated folks here.

  41. Deepak Says:

    Ha ha, what a joke, posting links from KRV’s site. KRV patting its own back is research….rofl
    And BTW, if KRV is the saviour of society as so many of you have seems to believe, why is it that we don’t hear all about their achievements in the media. The entire media is biased against KRV, enu madodappa!!

    Anyway, good to know that KRV has so many supporters online. All the best to your endeavors in making KRV as Karnataka’s Shiv Sena + MNS.

  42. Priyank Says:

    @Prashanth,

    Well understood the point you are trying to make.
    Regarding painting the advertisement hoardings with black paint, let me present few more things here.
    1. The advertisement hoardings, the name boards of shop are in violation of the law of the land. Ideally BBMP should be taking action against the law violators.
    2. KRV held demonstration in front of BBMP office asking for action against law violations. Mayor assured strict action against the violators and no further action followed from BBMP side.
    3. KRV made requests (publicly) to KDA to see to it that the law is upheld. KDAs promises were not kept.
    4. Later KRV made a peaceful protest in front of airtel office on Bannerghatta road. No proactive measures ensued by the corporates.
    5. After few days, KRV painted the hoardings black.

    Governance dysfunction is clear in this case. Or is it a plot to wait till KRV takes action and later book them under ‘damage to public/private property’?

  43. Chetan Says:

    @Deepak,

    Dude if you check KRV’s blog you will find the paper clippings that have appeared in your beloved papers and Media.

    if you have the habit of watching Kannada channels then you could have seen anchors telling what KRV is doing for the society. Keep a habit of watching Kannada news channels and Kannada news papers, I bet you will come to know about KRV.

  44. Deepak Says:

    @Amarnath – I have no hatred for KRV. My point is that it is overhyped and has done hardly anything of value for Kannada. Organising samaveshas, demonstrations and protests doesn’t help anyone. Kannadigas want concrete results after being reduced to a minority in Bangalore. If KRV can do that ‘within the framework of the law’ and show results (not just press clippings of agitations), then I bow to them.

    And please for heaven’s sake don’t out Vatal Nagraj in the same space as Aa NA Krishnarao and Ma Ramamurthy!!

  45. ಕನ್ನಡಾಭಿಮಾನಿ Says:

    @Priyank – Good chronological order of how Karave jumps into action

    @Deepak – If you are not convienced with links from Karave’s website, take a look at their blog atleast. Not even a single word is uttered by the Karave folks there. You see a lot of news paper reports which have come about Karave. Kindly admit that there are lot of things about karave in the media too. We need a party which has guts to raise their voice for the betterment of kannadigas and karnataka. Unfortunately, all the 3 parties in karnataka today as busy performing homas, havanas and doing low life activities like Black Magic too. Its unfortunate that we are ruled by such goons. I want karave to be given a chance once and lets decide later if they deserved it or not. Why jump into conclusions now? My gut feeling says, they would do good to the state and the people of karnataka. Definitely better that what we can expect from the dangerous trio of karnataka.

    @Complex – The link that you have given is a half baked news. In a mass organization which has more than 40 lakh kaaryakartaru, such unfortunate things happen once in a while. Its practically impossible to do the micro level management. Ofcourse, you got to be cautious when you take people into your troupe. I completely agree that keeping such ppl in any organization will only bring a bad image in the society. But what am trying to say is that the news that 5 KRV men were involved in dacoity is reported but the after effects that they were kicked out of KRV is not covered by them? Typical example of double standards.

    Similarly with the report on extortion mentioned in the same report. The news paper was not suppose to publish about that as a case is going on in the court. If Karave is proved guilty in the court, then lets talk about that..

    My stand is pretty clear. I would not like to make allegations on somebody unless they are proved.

  46. Jayaprakash Says:

    @Complex,

    If the news published in Deccan Herald is true, then it’s definitely a condemnable act and I’m with you in the criticism. But, I have my own doubts about its truthfulness.

    I have observed that the English media is generally biased about KRV and not made sincere efforts to recognize the truth. While Kannada media has been fairly transparent in expressing their view points about KRV, English media is yet to start accepting the reality. There are background forces acting from various political parties since they fear that KRV might emerge as a regional political party.

    Nevertheless, there are so many positive aspects of what KRV has done the society, Kannada, Kannadiga and Karnataka. I came across these links:

    http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2023/stories/20031121001405000.htm

    http://www.pics4news.com/daily_news_photo/23581/Voluntary_Blood_Donation_Camp.html

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mysore/Karnataka-Rakshana-Vedike-withdraws-hunger-strike/articleshow/5385515.cms

    http://karave.blogspot.com/2008/06/blog-post_11.html

    http://karave.blogspot.com/search/label/%E0%B2%B8%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%AE%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%9C%E0%B2%BF%E0%B2%95%20%E0%B2%95%E0%B2%BE%E0%B2%B3%E0%B2%9C%E0%B2%BF%20%2F%20Social%20Contribution

    Your opinion please?

  47. Sandhya Says:

    @Deepak

    One does not need any website links to acknowledge the fact that today Railway exams for D group are being held all over India in states’ language instead of Hindi and English. And it was KRV who had been so persistent in stopping any attempt to hold exams in hindi n english to recruit for 4700 or so seats in Karnataka.

  48. prasad Says:

    @deepak, Dude you are just another cosmo-indian faking like a ‘True kannadiga’.And it looks like you dont read kannada news papers and dont watch kannada tv channels. All most all kannada channels have covered karave’s pro-kannada/karnataka activities. If you browse their websitte you will see news paper reports uploaded. I reiterate ‘news paper reports’. Before comparing Shivasena/MNS and karave, try to know their ideologies. Atleast karave knows how to define ‘kannadiga’ but shivasena and MNS are still not able to define ‘maharashtrians’.

  49. Prashanth Says:

    @Priyank and Chetan

    Both your comments are well taken and I was aware that a law was in place in reference to display fonts and language. While Priyank has listed the efforts made by KRV before resorting to painting the hoardings black, Chetan goes on to suggest that it doesn’t amount ot andalizing public property.

    @ Chetan: Do you mean to suggest that property that isn’t public can be vandalized just because KRV opines (arguably correctly) that it doesn’t comply with state norms? Does it mean that if there is a house or a compound wall which has encroached upon a public footpath (of which there are numerous examples in Bangalore) and if BBMP fails to take cognizance of it even after repeated complaints, a mob comprising of my friends can indulge in its demolition? If your answer to the above question is yes, then I will never be able to convince you on why using of physical force under any conditions is inappropriate?

    @Priyank: I really appreciate the fact that you have quite commendably followed KRV’s efforts before they resorted to what I would singularly term as vandalism. I was not aware of it and I am thankful that you pointed it out. But as I have mentioned above, if one has to resort to use of force on a private individual, owing to governmental and judicial apathy, where do we draw the line? There are civil suits in our courts which drag on for decades. Does one have to use physical force to obtain a settlement that one sees as being appropriate?

    It isn’t my intention to offend either of you. But I just want to draw your attention to what eventually makes a society? There is a dire necessity for our society today to adopt honest means of transaction. Under what circumstances it will materialize, I am not yet certain. What KRV did by painting the hoardings black is just a manifestation of what we see on the roads everyday where everyone is a law unto himself. Mobs handing out what they think is justice, motorists fighting over an accident etc. I cannot for the love of my life think of an excuse for someone deciding to take law into their own hands. There is a need for people in influential positions, like KRV to set an example, a bloody good example of being able to lead a social and political change without resorting to such antics. I for one, unfortunately do not see it coming from KRV. There is a vast majority of people out there who think it’s appropriate to do what the most popular people do. In that regard, any individual or organization that aspires to lead a public life, in my opinion should avoid setting examples that goes against the spirit of a democratic set up and that is to avoid usage of physical force under any circumstance to drive home your point.

  50. Complex Says:

    @All those guys who are supporting KRV

    I think only one guy is posting with many names. Even if you are many guys, I pity you all for the kind of views you have. Anyway, I have provided the link in which an MNC director has complained against the KRV head for extorting money. And also, 12 KRV people have arrested for dacoity. I haven’t heard any comments from you regarding the same. So, you think there are so many people working for KRV just for the sake of Kannada. How did so many people suddenly become big hearted. Everybody knows that it is very tough to mobilize people for a good cause. Only hatred can mobilize many people(Hatred for muslims, hatred for hindus are some of the ways. MNS are using hatred for North Indians. You are using hatred for non-kannadigas. It is also known that Shiv Sena members are used as goondas. I am sure KRV uses its people for goondaism and extortion). Who are the kind of people who are members of KRV? I am sure most of the members are jobless unemployed people.

    @Shankar:

    If companies are not able to attract talent, the companies will hire people in other cities. There won’t be people to rent a house. There won’t be people to go by autos. There won’t be people who will pay property tax, vehicle tax, etc. The whole economy of Bangalore is tied to IT/BT. So, if IT/BT companies start seeing Bangalore as unattractive, the Bangalorean economy will go down.

  51. Raghavendra Says:

    @Prashanth, @Deepak
    KRV has been in forefront when it comes to the cause of fighting justice for kannada, kannadiga and karnataka. They have been using Sama, beda, daana and danda methods in their chaluvali. It KRV’s protest that stopped gazette notification cauvery river water issue. It was KRV protest once again in getting chitravathi dam being built inspite of stiff protest from andhra. KRV has given new dimension to kannada chaluvali and brought the whole karnataka one. This is an amazing acheivement for any organisation. kudos to KRV. Wish many more achievements by KRV.

  52. shankar Says:

    vinay, care to explain how companies not attracting talent from outside karnataka affects a normal kannadiga ? Infact he will be happy if this happens , as companies will stop ignoring local talent to save a few rupees.

    besides , a good company will attract talent , karave or no karave. A good employee will be in demand karave or no karave.

    Your statement is like that famous mohan ass pai of infosys proclaiming that his companies profit margin will decline by 10 – 15 % , if bangalore airport is shifted to devanahalli !

    There is more to to attractin talent than presence of karave. Mumbai continues to be financial capital of India, inspite of presence of shiva sena / mns.

  53. Ramesh Rao Says:

    @ Deepak

    The links posted by many does take you to KRV site; for sure. But, the content is from news papers.

    If you think being cynical qualifies you as an intellect; i am sorry sir. It does not.

  54. karavenalnudi Says:

    ಕರವೇ ಮುಖ್ಯವಾಹಿನಿಯಲ್ಲಿದೆ, ಇದು ಕನ್ನಡಕ್ಕೆ ಒಳ್ಳೆಯದೆ? ಎಂಬುದು ಪ್ರಥ್ವಿ ದತ್ತ ಚಂದ್ರ ಶೋಭಿ ಅವರ ಪ್ರಶ್ನೆ. ಚರ್ಚೆಯೂ ಬಿರುಸಾಗಿ ನಡೆದಿದೆ. ಇಂಥ ಚರ್ಚೆಯನ್ನು ಆರಂಭಿಸಿದ ಚುರುಮುರಿಗೆ, ಲೇಖಕರಿಗೆ ಅಭಿನಂದನೆಗಳು.
    ಕನ್ನಡ ಸಾಂಸ್ಕೃತಿಕ ಚರ್ಚೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಕರವೇ ಮುಖ್ಯವಾಹಿನಿಗೆ ಬಂದಿದೆ ಎಂದು ಪ್ರಥ್ವಿ ಹೇಳುತ್ತಾರೆ. ಇದನ್ನು ಒಪ್ಪಿಕೊಳ್ಳುವ ಔದಾರ್ಯತೆ ತೋರಿದ್ದು ಸಂತೋಷದ ವಿಷಯ. ಅದರ ಜತೆಗೆ ಇದು ಕನ್ನಡಕ್ಕೆ ಒಳಿತೆ? ಎಂಬ ಪ್ರಶ್ನೆಯನ್ನೂ ಅವರು ಇರಿಸಿದ್ದಾರೆ. ಕೆಲವು ವರ್ಷಗಳ ಹಿಂದೆ ನಮ್ಮ ಹಲವು ಗೆಳೆಯರು ಕರವೇಗೆ ಸಾಂಸ್ಕೃತಿಕ ಮುಖವಿಲ್ಲ, ಇವರಿಂದ ನಾಡಿಗೆ ಏನು ಪ್ರಯೋಜನ ಎನ್ನುತ್ತಿದ್ದರು. ಹಿಂದೆಯೂ ಇದ್ದಿದ್ದು ಆಪಾದನೆ, ಈಗಲೂ ಆಪಾದನೆ. ಎರಡೂ ಪರಸ್ಪರ ವಿರುದ್ಧ ಅಭಿಪ್ರಾಯಗಳನ್ನು ಬಿಂಬಿಸುವ ಆಪಾದನೆಗಳು. ಆದರೆ ಇವರೆಡೂ ವಿರೋಧದ ನೆಲೆಯಿಂದಲೇ ಉದ್ಭವಿಸಿವೆ. ವಿರೋಧಕ್ಕಾಗಿ ವಿರೋಧ ಎಂಬುದು ಇದರಿಂದ ಸ್ಪಷ್ಟವಾಗುತ್ತದೆ.
    ಹಾಗೆ ನೋಡಿದರೆ ಕರವೇ ಸಾಂಸ್ಕೃತಿಕವಾಗಿ ಮುಖ್ಯವಾಹಿನಿಗೆ ಬಂದು ಬಹಳ ಕಾಲವಾಯಿತು. ಅದನ್ನು ಗುರುತಿಸುವ ಕೆಲಸ ಆಗಿಲ್ಲ. ಕರವೇ ಒಂದು ವರ್ಷದ ಹಿಂದೆಯೇ ಗಂಗಾ ಪ್ರಕಾಶನ ಎಂಬ ಹೆಸರಿನಲ್ಲಿ ಪುಸ್ತಕ ಪ್ರಕಾಶನ ಸಂಸ್ಥೆಯನ್ನು ಆರಂಭಿಸಿದೆ. ಅದು ಈಗಾಗಲೇ ಹಲವು ಕೃತಿಗಳನ್ನು ಪ್ರಕಟಿಸಿದೆ. ಕನ್ನಡ ಲೇಖಕರ ಒಟ್ಟು ೫೦೦ ಕೃತಿಗಳನ್ನು ಒಟ್ಟಿಗೆ ಪ್ರಕಟಿಸುವ ದೊಡ್ಡ ಯೋಜನೆಯೊಂದನ್ನು ಗಂಗಾ ಪ್ರಕಾಶನ ಹಮ್ಮಿಕೊಂಡಿದೆ. ಈ ಲೇಖಕರ ಪೈಕಿ ಹಣಕಾಸು ಕೊರತೆಯಿಂದ ಪುಸ್ತಕಗಳನ್ನು ಪ್ರಕಟಿಸಲಾಗದೇ ಇರುವ ಲೇಖಕರ ಕೃತಿಗಳೂ ಇರುತ್ತವೆ ಎಂಬುದು ಉಲ್ಲೇಖನೀಯ.
    ಕರವೇ ಸಂಘಟಿಸುವ ಎಲ್ಲಾ ಕಾರ್ಯಕ್ರಮಗಳಲ್ಲೂ ಸಾಂಸ್ಕೃತಿಕ ಚಟುವಟಿಕೆಗಳು ಇದ್ದೇ ಇರುತ್ತವೆ. ಹೆಸರಾಂತ ಜನಪದ ಗಾಯಕ ಗುರುರಾಜ ಹೊಸಕೋಟೆ ಅವರ ನೇತೃತ್ವದಲ್ಲಿ ಕರವೇ ಸಾಂಸ್ಕೃತಿಕ ಘಟಕ ಚಟುವಟಿಕೆಗಳನ್ನು ನಡೆಸುತ್ತ ಬಂದಿದೆ. ಪ್ರತಿ ಜಿಲ್ಲೆಗಳಲ್ಲೂ ಈ ಸಾಂಸ್ಕೃತಿಕ ಘಟಕಗಳು ಕ್ರಿಯಾಶೀಲವಾಗಿವೆ.
    ಕರವೇ ಮುಖವಾಣಿ ‘ಕರವೇ ನಲ್ನುಡಿ ಮಾಸ ಪತ್ರಿಕೆ ಕಳೆದ ಒಂದು ವರ್ಷದಿಂದ ಪ್ರಕಟವಾಗುತ್ತಿದೆ. ಇದು ಕೇವಲ ಕರವೇ ಮುಖವಾಣಿಯಂತಿರದೆ ಕನ್ನಡ ಜನಸಂಸ್ಕೃತಿಯ ಮುಖವಾಣಿಯಂತೆ ಹೊರಬರುತ್ತಿದೆ. ಡಾ.ಯು.ಆರ್.ಅನಂತಮೂರ್ತಿ, ಚಂಪಾ, ಬರಗೂರು, ಡಾ. ಚನ್ನವೀರ ಕಣವಿ, ಪ್ರೊ.ಕೆ.ಎಸ್.ಭಗವಾನ್, ರಂಜಾನ್ ದರ್ಗಾ, ಅಮರೇಶ್ ನುಗಡೋಣಿ, ಡಾ.ಸಿ.ಪಿ.ಕೆ., ಡಾ.ರಾಜಪ್ಪ ದಳವಾಯಿ, ಸುಬ್ಬು ಹೊಲೆಯಾರ್, ಸಾ.ಶಿ.ಮರುಳಯ್ಯ, ಸುಬ್ರಾಯ ಚೊಕ್ಕಾಡಿ, ಪ್ರೊ.ಡಿ.ಲಿಂಗಯ್ಯ, ಬಿ.ಟಿ.ಲಲಿತಾ ನಾಯಕ್, ಡಾ. ಕಮಲಾ ಹಂಪನಾ, ನಾ.ಡಿಸೋಜ, ಡಾ.ಬಸವರಾಜ ಸಬರದ ಮುಂತಾದವರು ಪತ್ರಿಕೆಗೆ ಬರೆದಿದ್ದಾರೆ, ಬರೆಯುತ್ತಿದ್ದಾರೆ. ಡಾ. ಜಿ.ಎಸ್.ಶಿವರುದ್ರಪ್ಪ, ಪ್ರೊ.ಕೆ.ಎಸ್.ನಿಸಾರ್ ಅಹಮದ್, ಪ್ರೊ.ಜಿ.ವೆಂಕಟಸುಬ್ಬಯ್ಯ, ಡಾ.ಸಿದ್ಧಲಿಂಗಯ್ಯ, ಡಾ.ದೇ.ಜವರೇಗೌಡ, ಎಂ.ಪಿ.ಪ್ರಕಾಶ್, ಡಾ. ಮಲ್ಲೇಪುರಂ ಜಿ.ವೆಂಕಟೇಶ್, ಡಾ. ಎಂ.ಚಿದಾನಂದಮೂರ್ತಿ, ಡಾ. ಆರ್.ಕೆ.ಶ್ರೀಕಂಠನ್, ಡಾ. ಹಂಪನಾ, ವಾಟಾಳ್ ನಾಗರಾಜ್, ಕೋಡಿಹಳ್ಳಿ ಚಂದ್ರಶೇಖರ್, ಎಂ.ವೆಂಕಟಸ್ವಾಮಿ ಮುಂತಾದವರ ಮೌಲಿಕ ಸಂದರ್ಶನಗಳು ಪ್ರಕಟಗೊಂಡಿವೆ. ಈ ಪತ್ರಿಕೆಗಳನ್ನು ಪ್ರಥ್ವಿಯಂಥವರು ಓದಿಲ್ಲದಿದ್ದರೆ ಅದು ಕರವೇ ತಪ್ಪಲ್ಲ. ಪತ್ರಿಕೆಯಲ್ಲಿ ಬರುವ ಕೆಲವು ಲೇಖನಗಳು ಕರವೇ ನಲ್ನುಡಿ ಬ್ಲಾಗ್‌ನಲ್ಲಿವೆ. (http://karavenalnudi.blogspot.com)
    ಸಾಹಿತ್ಯ ಸಮ್ಮೇಳನದಲ್ಲಿ ಕರವೇ ಮೆರವಣಿಗೆಯ ಉಸ್ತುವಾರಿಯನ್ನು ವಹಿಸಿಕೊಂಡಿದ್ದರಿಂದಾಗಿ ಬಹಳ ಜನರಿಗೆ ಕರವೇ ಹೊಂದಿರುವ ಸಾಂಸ್ಕೃತಿಕ ಚೈತನ್ಯ ಮನವರಿಕೆಯಾಗಿದೆ. ಆದರೆ ಈ ಸಾಂಸ್ಕೃತಿಕ ಚೈತನ್ಯ ಹಿಂದೆಯೂ ಇತ್ತು ಎಂಬುದಕ್ಕೆ ಮೇಲಿನ ಎಲ್ಲ ಮಾತುಗಳು ಉದಾಹರಣೆ.
    ಇನ್ನು ಪ್ರಥ್ವಿ ಅವರು ಹೇಳುವ ಕೇಸರೀಕರಣ ಏನೆಂಬುದು ಅರ್ಥವಾಗುತ್ತಿಲ್ಲ. ಯಾವ ಅರ್ಥದಲ್ಲಿ ಕೇಸರೀಕರಣ ಎಂಬ ಪದವನ್ನು ಬಳಸುತ್ತಿದ್ದಾರೆ? ಕನ್ನಡವೇ ಜಾತಿ, ಕನ್ನಡವೇ ಧರ್ಮ, ಕನ್ನಡವೇ ದೇವರು ಎಂಬ ಘೋಷವಾಕ್ಯ ಕರವೇಯದ್ದು. ಕುವೆಂಪು ಅವರ ಸಿದ್ಧಾಂತವನ್ನು ಒಪ್ಪಿ ಸಂಘಟನೆ ಮುನ್ನಡೆಯುತ್ತಿದೆ. ಕೆಂಪು-ಹಳದಿ ಶಾಲು ಕೆಲವರ ಕಣ್ಣಿಗೆ ಹೇಗೆ ಹೇಗೋ ಕಾಣುವುದುಂಟು. ಅದು ಅವರವರ ಪೂರ್ವಾಗ್ರಹಗಳಿಂದ ಹುಟ್ಟಿಕೊಂಡ ಭಾವಗಳು. ಈ ಭಾವಗಳಿಗೆ ಅವರವರೇ ಜವಾಬ್ದಾರಿ.
    ಸ್ಯಾನ್‌ಫ್ರಾನ್ಸಿಸ್ಕೋ ವಿಶ್ವವಿದ್ಯಾಲಯದಲ್ಲಿ ಪ್ರಾಧ್ಯಾಪಕರಾಗಿರುವ ಪ್ರಥ್ವಿ ದತ್ತ ಚಂದ್ರ ಶೋಬಿ ಅವರಿಗೆ ರಾಜ್ಯದ ವಿದ್ಯಮಾನಗಳು ಅಷ್ಟಾಗಿ ಗೊತ್ತಿರಲಿಕ್ಕಿಲ್ಲ. ಕರವೇ ಕುರಿತು ಅವರಿಗೆ ತಪ್ಪು ಕಲ್ಪನೆಗಳಿರಬಹುದು. ಒಮ್ಮೆ ಅವರು ನಮ್ಮ ಕಚೇರಿಗೂ ಬರಲಿ. ಕರವೇ ರಾಜ್ಯಾಧ್ಯಕ್ಷರಾದ ನಾರಾಯಣಗೌಡರನ್ನೂ ಮಾತನಾಡಿಸಲಿ. ಆಗ ಅವರ ತಪ್ಪು ಕಲ್ಪನೆಗಳು ದೂರವಾಗಬಹುದು. ಪ್ರಥ್ವಿ ಅವರಿಗೆ ನಮ್ಮ ಪ್ರೀತಿಯ ಆಮಂತ್ರಣವಿದೆ. ಹಾಗೆಯೇ ನಾಡಿಗೆ ಕರವೇ ಕೊಡುಗೆ ಏನು ಎಂದು ಪ್ರಶ್ನಿಸಿರುವ ಎಲ್ಲರನ್ನೂ ನಾವು ಸ್ವಾಗತಿಸುತ್ತೇವೆ.
    ನಮ್ಮ ವಿಳಾಸ ಇಲ್ಲಿದೆ
    ಕರವೇ ನಲ್ನುಡಿ ಕನ್ನಡ ಮಾಸಪತ್ರಿಕೆ
    ನಂ.೬/೨, ಶಿವಾನಂದ ವೃತ್ತ
    ಕುಮಾರಕೃಪ ರಸ್ತೆ
    ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು-೧
    ದೂರವಾಣಿ: ೨೨೩೪ ೧೭೯೨
    ಬ್ಲಾಗ್:http://karavenalnudi.blogspot.com
    ಇ-ಮೇಲ್:karavenalnudi@gmail.com
    -ಪ.ಬ.ಜ್ಞಾನೇಂದ್ರ ಕುಮಾರ್
    ಕಾರ್ಯ ನಿರ್ವಾಹಕ ಸಂಪಾದಕ
    ಕರವೇ ನಲ್ನುಡಿ ಮಾಸಪತ್ರಿಕೆ

  55. dinesh Says:

    If KRV is protecting kannada, let them do it. There is no place for violence in democaracy, KRV should understand it to become a mass movement.

  56. vinty Says:

    Karnataka Rakshana Vedike are a bunch of hooligans. If you pay them money, they won’t create havoc. Otherwise, they will. In the name of Kannada.

  57. drggt Says:

    definitely organizing sammalena in bengaluru is a good thing.
    i am inspired by G.V. we need to be confident, fearless..
    we need to get to work.. in the end that s what matters not any loose talk..

  58. Vinay Says:

    shankar:

    All I said was, I would like companies to stay in Bangalore, and the IT industry to grow in Bangalore, since I am an “ordinary Kannadiga in IT industry in Bangalore”. I didn’t say anything about KRV. I just made it clear that there are several “normal Kannadigas” who want the IT boom to stay, and not just limited to people like me.

    Let me make 2 points:

    1. The presence or absence of KRV will not necessarily ‘drive away talent’, I don’t think that is true.
    2. If companies move out of Bangalore for whatever reason, the “normal Kannadiga” is royally fucked. Not just people like me, but the auto drivers, landlords, PG owners, shopkeepers, mall/multiplex workers, construction labourers, etc.

    That is my point, and there can be no disputing point (2).

  59. shankar Says:

    @complex , Bangalore used to have autos & rented houses even in 1980s , when there was no IT here.

    The whole economy of bangalore is NOT tied to IT / BT alone. That is a myth propogated by the likes of mohan ass pai.

    There are a whole lot of other industries like auto mobile. auto components, Textiles, Engineering, floriculture , Silk etc, which very much exist in bangalore. Infact exports of coffee & textiles is as big as software from karnataka.

    btw, the IT gaints infosys & wipro and all others based in electronic city do not pay any property tax to BBMP, but demand good infrastructure from them all the time !

  60. Shruti Gowda/ Soumya Patil Says:

    Ka.Ra.Ve is about Kannada, Karnataka, Kannadiga and nothing else. The people here making shallow remarks are just arm chair critics who find it easy to make comments sitting in the stands. Ka.Ra.Ve does things. Most people in the state and Kannadigas overseas know the truth except some people who will always being critical. They are not here to drive outsiders away but to ensure they come to the mainstream by learning Kannada.

  61. Soumya Patil/ Shruti Gowda Says:

    Regarding cases many people misuse Ka.Ra.Ve name just like many times people fake themselves as police once someone even faked himself as the secretary of Chief Minister. I am sure most people are intelligent enough to understand just plain dishonesty and nonsense of pleasing outsiders. We are here to please none. idu namma naadu namma nuDi. those who dont like too bad. Dare these people would do this nonsense in Europe.

  62. shankar Says:

    @vinay, your point no. 2 is debatable..( use of a 4 letter word does not make it the gospel truth ) It may make things difficult for the minority of service providers..but will definitely make life better for the majority consumers of these services.. like , Rents which are more down to earth, autos which do not refuse to come to your destination or maids whose demands are more reasonbale..overall you will see a tempering in prices , if demand is subdued..which is good for consumers..

    Service providers obviously would like to have an audience who do not mind paying exorbitant rates ( as in 250 rupees for a movie ticket in a multiplex, which has got tax exemption from government ! )

    The normal bangalorean certainly is not the one who has rented out a few apartments , runs a PG & also has a mall where north indian speciality meals & dresses are sold.

  63. Venki Says:

    It was Dr.Rajkumar’s cinemas which in a way helped build a cultural identity for Kannadigas across the state. From Bidar to Chamarajnagara, Kannadigas were united, emotionally through Annavra cinemas. But, post 1990s, there was a dire need of an organisation, a leader who can vouch for issues affecting all parts of the state, and Karnataka found it in KRV is what I feel.

    If minting money is the only thing, then we must also realise that it is only Bengaluru which has money in Karnataka. It is Bengaluru which is feeding the whole of Karnataka and if some one is keen to make money out of Kannada, then Bengaluru is the place. Naturally Bengaluru has hundreds of organisations in the name of Kannada. But, in my opinion, KRV’s protests were mostly for issues outside of Bengaluru. Be it Belgaum border row, getting first kannada mayor in Belgaum after 20 years, or fighting for kalasa banduri, kaveri judgement, krishna tribunal judgement, bijapur women univ VC selection, chitravati barrage construction,, all of these issues were bothering kannadigas outside of bengaluru. Let’s give this margin to them that they have indeed faught some of the genuine cases of Kannadigas.

    What amazes me is UPA led by congress, or the state govt run by bjp get into corruption cases of gigantic proportion, but these nio liberals never make a fuss out of it, but a small social organization works for the causes affecting kannadigas, and they will jump to brand them parochial, fanatic and what not.

    India is a federation of states and every state’s integrity, nela, jala, udyoga, badukina ella hakkugalannu ulisikolluva kelsa aagbeku. If successive governments are failing in doing it, why do we blame someone who works for it?

    Agreed, violence shouldn’t be the means to achieve our goals, but our system of governance has become so dumb and numb that they don’t react unless you show aggression. KRV didn’t involve in any physical violence in any time as far as I know about them through media.

    What we need today is an eco system where issues affecting Kannada, Karnataka, Kannadiga should be discussed in an open forum with representatives from all parties, social organisations, intellectuals at one place and really act as a pressure group to make the govt act.

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