The Mahatma in the eyes of Deve Gowda’s son

BHAMY V. SHENOY writes: I was shocked to read a news item in today’s Deccan Herald—“If Gandhi were alive, he would have been corrupt: HDK”—in which the former chief minister, H.D. Kumarswamy, is quoted as saying that it is impossible to not be corrupt as a politician in today’s India.

While doubting the strong moral underpinnings of the Mahatma, HDK categorically states that “he (HDK) was never involved in corruption” while implementing government schemes and projects as CM, but had received “donations from friends and well wishers” for strengthening the party and fighting elections.

If HDK could be as non-corrupt as he claimed, why did not the media ask him as how could he have doubts about the Mahatma?

“Corruption has become inevitable. Contesting elections and pursuing politics without corruption is impossible in today’s context.” Going a step ahead, he made his quip about the Mahatma.

Two kinds of contemporary people can come to the conclusion about Mahatma’s capacity to be in politics without compromising his principles based on India’s current rampant corruption scenario.

One is the kind that might not have read the Mahatma’s his autobiography “My experiments with truth” or any other book/s on Gandhi and thus do not know anything about him. The other is the kind that is so corrupt that it is impossible for them to think that there could be others in the world who can be honest.

Is it possible that our former CM meets both the criteria?

In this world, there are hundreds of political leaders who are not corrupt. Even in India, though their number may not be huge, we can still find some who have not been compromised. But political leaders like Kumarswamy do not have the time nor the interest to learn about those honest leaders.

They are like the frogs in a well and for them, their well consists of corrupt leaders.

What have Kannadigas done to deserve leaders who do not think that it is impossible to be honest? Can we find some honest leaders like Anna Hazare amongst us?

Also read: Nothing is what it seems when scoundrels meet

A snapshot of a poor, debt-ridden farming family

Everybody’s stark naked in the public bathroom

External reading: Evil empire of JDS triumvirate

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43 Responses to “The Mahatma in the eyes of Deve Gowda’s son”

  1. chanakya Says:

    It is a shame that we have politicians like HDK amidst us. Everyone knows that HDK, his father Deve gowda and other family members are corrupt. There is a say in Kannada ‘Tannante Parara Bagedode’ means=We see the world through our character. HDK thinks that everyone is corrupt like him and his father. Shame on you HDK…learn to act like a educated man..who knows the unfortunate Karnataka state may see you as its CM again…

  2. the colonel Says:

    What have Kannadigas done to deserve leaders who do not think that it is impossible to be honest?

    Who elected them??????

  3. Alok Says:

    With recent talk of banning Joseph Lelyveld’s book, can we please call for a ban on HDK and his father?

    From existence?

  4. wineye Says:

    and he come on television to defend himself..

    they disgust me to no end just the nature by how they defend ANYTHING!!

    we in karnataka surely deserve better leader

  5. karihaida Says:

    These are the kind of things that make Kumaranna immensely likeable…
    Can someone post the video if there is one ?

  6. harkol Says:

    For a person with only a hammer, everything in world appears like a nail.

    What HDK says is absurd for all who have read about and the works of Mahatma. Mahatma was least interested in running the country. He had a bunch of principles and was willing to live and die by them.

    He would neither have hankered to win elections, and having not won elections he wouldn’t have let others run the country without any regard for propriety.

    Besides, he could mobilize millions with a simple speech in an age when the only mass media was Papers (which too were censored). In this age of communication, a person with his moral caliber and reach would’ve been politicians nightmare.

    having said that, South Africa still has Mandela and also corruption. But, far far less than India.

    It is India’s tragedy that we lost Mahatma so soon after Independence, leaving the field open for Nehru to make a Dynasty that has ruled for longer than anything the Gulf has seen!!

  7. Deepak Says:

    Blaming entire kannadigas for electing Gowda and company is not good. If someone travels across Mandya, Mysore, Hassan and Bangalore rural districts they can find majority of the ppl who blindly supports Gowda clan just because they r from Vokkaliga community.

    Vokkaligas should come out of this mentality and should not support Deve gowda and his sons.

  8. one eyed jack Says:

    HDK is indirectly admitting he is corrupt as well. He is being candid while others pussy foot around what is convention in modern politics. The comment should be read as being philosophical in nature. Yes, the challenge is to change this mindset and show that the truest form of democracy and Gandhian ideals are worthy goals. Yes, there is not enough reflection on these issues. But where is the time when the world cup victory ends in the ipl and the ipl ends in sheela ki jawani.

  9. VTVenkataram Says:

    I one breath HDK says “If Gandhi were alive, he would have been corrupt” and he further states that “he (HDK) was never involved in corruption” . Does he mean that he is more moral than Gandhi ??.
    He states that “Corruption has become inevitable. Contesting elections and pursuing politics without corruption is impossible in today’s context.”.What does this mean in his case ??
    Whom is he trying to fool ???

  10. DailyBread Says:

    >“If Gandhi were alive, he would have been corrupt: HDK”

    +10

  11. Poli Hudga Says:

    I am no supporter of HDK but Super like to his statement….. those who deny HDK’s statement are bloody hypocrites! Ivathina politiciansge dum idre ….. stop slandering his family and do something (like what he does to Yeddy)!

  12. Indu Ramesh Says:

    I dont expect HDK to know anything about Gandhiji. He may even be thinking the current lot of Gandhijis in Indian politics are the progeny of the Mahatma.But we must give him the kudos for admitting, even indirectly, that he is corrupt. Really, what have we done to deserve such leaders?

  13. anil Says:

    Brutally honest view.

  14. ERR Says:

    Actually, HDK should hide under the Table… but he may find HDD there…!

  15. Nastika Says:

    A serial killer cannot believe people can live without killing.

  16. A Says:

    We need hazaar Anna Hazares. Anna Hazare zind..wait what? he praised Gujarat? Blasphemy. Down with Anna. Does he not know development is in the blood of Gujjus and has nothing to do with the fascist govt there?

  17. Rao Says:

    “Impossible to survive in Indian politics of today without being absolutely corrupt” BS Yeddyurappa

  18. Srinivas Says:

    “Yatha tanDe tatha maga”..why am i not surprised with HDK making such comments..:(

  19. the colonel Says:

    In light of the darkness we are in:

    I sincerely appeal to our Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh, **If Field
    Marshal Sam Manekshaw could not be honoured with Bharat Ratna during his
    lifetime, the least which the Government of India can do is to honor him
    now, by bestowing upon him the award of Bharat Ratna posthumously. He is one
    of the most deserving son of India and a great, brave and distinguished
    soldier, who brought many a glorious victory and moments of achievements to
    this grateful Nation.*

    Remembering a Great and Charismatic Indian Soldier

    1. Full Name – Sam Hormusji Framji Jamshedji Manekshaw

    2. Nickname – Sam Bahadur

    3. Parents. Father – Dr. Hormusji Manekshaw and Mother – Smt Heerabai

    4. Date and Place of Birth – 3 April 1914 – Amritsar, Punjab

    5. Date and Place of death 27 Jun 2008 – Wellington, Tamil Nadu

    6. Education – Schooling. Amritsar and Sherwood College (Nainital)

    7. Commission into Army – Dec 1934 from Indian Military Academy in the first
    batch for Officers.

    8. Commissioned in 8th Gurkha Rifles and served from December 1934 to June
    1973

    9. Ranks and Promotions in the Army
    ( a ) Second Lieutenant, British Indian Army-1934
    ( b ) Lieutenant-1935
    ( c ) Captain-1940
    ( d ) Major-1943
    ( e ) Lieutenant-Colonel-1945
    ( f ) Colonel-1946
    ( g ) Brigadier-1947
    ( f ) Brigadier, Indian Army-1950
    ( g ) Major-General, Indian Army-December 1957
    ( h ) Lieutenant-General-December 1963
    ( j ) General (COAS)-8 June 1969
    ( k ) Field Marshal-3 January 1973
    10. Chief of Army Staff – He was the 8th Chief of the Army Staff (COAS)
    *11. Battles/Wars *
    ( a ) World War II
    ( b ) Indo‐Pakistan War of 1947
    ( c ) Sino‐Indian War of 1962
    ( d ) Indo‐Pakistan War of 1965
    ( e ) Indo‐Pakistan War of 1971
    *12. Honours and Awards*
    ( a ) Military Cross
    ( b ) Padma Bhushan
    ( c ) Padma Vibhushan
    *13. Military Career 1934 to 1973 : Some interesting facts*
    ( a ) *World War II* – He was leading a counter-offensive against the
    invading Japanese Army in Burma in 1941, having got the task of Defence of
    Sittang Bridge – Captain Manekshaw who was with the 4/12 Frontier Force
    Regiment, was hit by a burst of LMG bullets and received 9 bullets in the
    lung, liver region and in his kidney and was critically/severely wounded. He
    has the rare distinction of being honored for his bravery on the battle
    front itself. Major General D.T. Cowan spotted Manekshaw holding on to life
    and was aware of his valour in face of stiff resistance from the Japanese.
    Fearing the worst, Major General Cowan quickly pinned his own Military Cross
    ribbon on to Manekshaw saying, “A dead person cannot be awarded a Military
    Cross.” He was moved to hospital. When the surgeon asked what had happened
    to him he is said to have replied that he was kicked by a donkey.

    ( b ) *Indo-Pak War 1947* – During the Pak invasion of Kashmir Sam Manekshaw
    was in charge of operations in Army HQ. He displayed incisive grasp of
    situation and acumen for planning as was noticed by all his superior
    commanders

    ( c ) *Sino**‐**Indian War of 1962* – Refused to toe the line of then
    Defence Minister VK Krishan Menon – He was side lined. After the humiliating
    defeat in 1962 war, he was rushed by the Prime Minister Pandit Jawahar Lal
    Nehru to contain the advancing Chinese aggression. His first order of the
    day was “There will be no withdrawal without orders – and these orders shall
    never be issued”. The Chinese never got an inch thereafter.

    ( d ) *As Corps Commander (GOC) 4 Corps Tezpur – 1963* – Denied Indira
    Gandhi’s entry into the Operations Room during briefing of Prime Minister
    Nehru saying she had not taken the oath to secrecy (A fact recounted by the
    Defence Minister’s Secretary Mr RB Pradhan in his book) of a Minister. Six
    years later Indira Gandhi accepted him as the COAS and had an excellent
    rapport with him.

    ( e ) *As Army Commander (GOC in C) Eastern Command – 1965* – Advised
    against attacking East Pakistan, in a stern manner, stating the people would
    be the main sufferers.

    ( f ) *As Army Chief (COAS) -1971.* Prime Minister Mrs Indira Gandhi wanted
    General Manekshaw (COAS) to carry out an immediate, lethal and swift
    surgical strike on Pakistan in Jun 1971 to install a government led by
    Sheikh Mujib ur Rehman. Refusing to be politically coerced he said “If
    ordered it will be done, but I guarantee a certain defeat and I have
    following reasons to say so *First **‐* In June the monsoon would render
    troop movement in the Eastern region near impossible and Second – Open
    Himalayan mountain passes will not permit lifting at least two Infantry
    divisions from the Chinese front”.

    The wisdom of his advice dawned, when Indian Army attacked the Pakistan Army
    in East Pakistan in 1971 and people of East Pakistan welcomed and in Dec
    1971 helped Indian Army in many ways for a victory over Pakistan Army. His
    strategic and operational finesse was evident when Indian pincers cut
    through the Pakistani forces like butter through knife in Dec 1971. Pakistan
    Army was checkmated in 14 days flat from 3rd to 16th December 1971 – with a
    total of 45,000 Pak soldiers and 45,000 civilians taken as POWs. Taking
    45000 Pak soldiers and 45000 civilians as POWs and then installing the new
    Bangladeshi Government under Sheikh Mujib ur Rehman was the greatest
    evermilitary victory for India. Now,16 Dec each yeariscelebrated as the
    ‘Vijay Diwas’. Sam Manekshaw was a man of great conviction because following
    the1971 victory he flew into Calcutta to compliment his officers.In the
    ceremonial reception at the Dum Dum Airport he was escorted to a car a
    Mercedes captured from the enemy.He refused to sit in it and left in nearest
    available Indian car.

    ( g ) *Promotion to* *Field Marshal.* 01 Jan 1973 General SHFJ Manekshaw,
    Military Cross, Padma Bhushan, Padma Vibhushan, stepped forward to the
    Presidential dais and saluted stiffly. President VV Giri ceremoniously
    handed Manekshaw a V.V. ornate silver‐tipped baton to give the nation her
    first Indian *Field Marshal* in history.

    ( h ) *Professional Competence*. Once a defence secretary made an
    observation on the note written by Manekshaw for the PM and the Defence
    Minister. He walked straight into Mrs Gandhi’s office. He politely told her
    that if she found the defence secretary more competent than him on military
    matters, then she did not have a need for him. The defence secretary was
    given a new job.

    ( j ) *Defence Services Staff College November 1998.* In a lecture to
    officers of three services attending course at Defence Services Staff
    College on leadership and discipline for handling senior level appointments
    Sam’s definition of the key attributes of a successful leader are summarised
    below:

    ( i ) *Attribute 1* – Professional Knowledge and Professional Competence a
    ‘sine qua non’ – hard work and constant study.

    ( ii ) *Attribute 2* – The ability to make up your mind to make a decision
    and accept full responsibility for that decision ‐ An act of omission is
    much worse that an act of commission.

    ( iii) *Attribute 3* – Absolute honesty, fairness and justice ‐ should be
    perceived by his team, to be fair in his dealings with one and all.

    ( iv) *Attribute 4* – Physical and Moral courage ‐ A ‘yes’ man is a
    dangerous man.

    ( v ) *Attribute 5* – Loyalty ‐ to our subordinates to subordinates, our
    colleagues, deal firmly with trouble creators in a team.

    ( vi ) *Attribute 6 *– Manliness ‐ a certain measure of flamboyance, a
    certain style and a vibrant personality, both in women and men leaders.

    ( k ) *Role Model for Own Officers**.* The Sam Bahadur was a team player. He
    almost always finished his own work in an hour and spent the rest of his
    time floating from one office to another to understand what keeps people so
    busy. He often dropped in on harried juniors and eagerly helped them with
    their tasks. Those who served with him said that he never raised his voice.
    But even a mild rebuke accompanied by “Sweetheart, this will not do,” was
    enough to tame the wildest of soldiery egos.

    ( l ) *Role Model for Corporate Leaders.* For the future corporate leaders
    aspiring a makeover from good to great the Field Marshal was the ultimate
    role model. There was a lot to learn from the 94 years of brilliance,
    selfless service, ‘joie de vivre’ the charismatic and ultimate leadership,
    which the Field Marshal Sam Bahadur could offer us. Manekshaw was on the
    board of a large number of Indian companies of the corporate world and was a
    favourite amongst the directors.

    *14. His Doctrines for All Types of leaders.*

    ( i ) *Raw Physical Courage.* Any aspiring leader needs raw courage in
    abundance. The Raw physical courage Sam Bahadur possessed was in full and
    overflowing measure ‐ but does a CEO need it? • Of course he does ‐ natural
    disasters, terrorist strikes, industrial accidents other emergencies ‐ will
    the CEO be the first to run or first to respond? His response could make or
    break his organisation and his own leadership potential for future.

    ( ii ) *Moral Courage*. Even more important is moral courage ‐ the courage
    of conviction, the courage to stand up to the values one believes in. True
    corporate leaders should neither buckle under pressure nor deviate from
    organisational welfare ‐ to command loyalty and followership

    ( iii ) *Spotting & Deploying Talent.* The real genius of Sam lay in his
    choice of field commanders. That is a skill that every CEO must build to
    spell the difference between success and failure. Ability to spot and deploy
    right talent ‐ with the skill set and mindscape that guarantees delivery.

    ( iv )* Planning & Faith. The* ability to plan to the required degree and to
    simultaneously invest and consummate faith in your people is the hall mark
    of a great leader. Sam practised this expertly throughout his long and
    chequered career, especially during the 1971 war. CEOs need to carryout
    detailed and meticulous planning and back their team fully with unrelenting
    faith.

    ( v ) *Seek The Best Ideas.* The best ideas may be embedded deep within the
    organisation. The CEO’s job is to ferret them out and implement them. Sam
    excelled in getting ideas from the rank and file; he would never pull his
    rank on his subordinates trying to tell him something that was very
    different from his own ideas.

    ( vi ) *Strategic & Tactical balance.* Sam assembled his assault force,
    supplied them with strategic guidance and demanded execution of plans from
    the field commanders. This balance is what CEOs need. While strategic
    initiatives are important, their grassroots implementation is equally vital.

    ( vii ) *Direct Communication.* Sam teaches us the importance of simple,
    direct and many times the earthy communication. Known for his wit and
    informality, he could get straight to the heart of the matter. CEOs must
    imbibe this in full measure. Many times measures and corporate
    communications and discussions are mired in obfuscation and jargonising. The
    principle of jargonising what you will do, and then do what you said” is the
    bedrock of credibility.

    (viii) *Giving Due Credit to Subordinates and Readiness to Accept Full
    Responsibility for Failure.* Manekshaw declined to preside over the
    Pakistani surrender in Dhaka. He insisted that the credit of Dhaka should go
    to the Eastern Army Commander Lt Gen. Jagjit Singh Aurora. He remarked that
    he would go only to accept the surrender of the entire Pakistani Army.

    ( ix ) *Professional Respect and Ethos.* After the 1971 war, Manekshaw
    insisted that the bodies of Pakistani officers be returned in proper
    coffins, and with military citation if they had gone down fighting bravely.
    He lauded the bravery of even his enemies. Such magnanimity is rare in
    military history.

    ( x ) *Connect with Troops.* As COAS, Manekshaw had issued instructions that
    if anyone from 54 Sikh, came visiting, he be brought straight to him,
    whatever time or engagement. All were received with a robust burst of
    colloquial Punjabi, which Manekshaw spoke like a native of Punjab his birth
    place. And none was unrequited when left.

    15. *The Final Days. *A Field Marshal never retires. Instead of a salary,
    Sam Manekshaw was given a paltry pension of Rs. 1300 per month with no
    perks, not even a car……thanks to the political masters and the
    bureaucrats. Let alone taking up a case he never even mentioned it to
    anyone. The matter came to light eventually when the Government gave him a
    cheque for Rs. 16 million in lieu of the salary he should have received as
    Field Marshal but didn’t get for over 36 years. Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw
    was admitted in the hospital for progressive lung disease“. He had slipped
    into a coma earlier in the day and the end came just after midnight at
    00:30am, on June 27 2008. He passed away into the pantheon of immortal
    Indian heroes and all‐time great military leaders of the world The saga of
    his life will continue to world. His qualities of leadership and camaraderie
    would continue to motivate and inspire untold generations. As quoted by one
    of the doctors in MH Wellington his last words were “I am better”.

    The man, who asked his subordinates to be “mentally and physically robust”
    and defeated the enemy decisively, pass away quietly, leaving behind a
    grateful nation. It was indeed sad that a great general and leader was no
    more, but it was even a more sad affair, not to see the President of India,
    the Prime Minister and the Defence Minister did not attend his funeral,
    simply because he was a man of conviction and courage and an upright and
    unbending general. (http://wadias.in/site/arzan/blog/indian-government-screws-up-field-marshal-manekshaws-passing-away-rites/).
    He was one of those great generals who can only think of resounding
    victories in war, never a cease-fire.

    See also : India’s political establishment and its shabby treatment of a
    national hero, by Commodore C Uday Bhaskar (retd)

    ( o ) *To BID HIM ADIEU.* A condolence book for Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw
    was kept at the ‘Martyrs Memorial’ at India Gate. The book had to be kept
    open for two more days owing to tremendous public response. The government
    said opening a condolence book for the Field Marshal is a singular honour
    given to the departed Field Marshal SHFJ Manekshaw.

    *16. A long List of his Outstanding Qualities**. *

    Perspective on Effective Leadership Behaviour

    Participative Leadership.

    Accepted full responsibility for all decisions

    Being supportive, constructive and goal oriented

    Subordinate participation in decision making

    Improved communication

    Facilitate conflict resolution

    Nature of insisting on Participative Leadership

    War Time: Consultative Made decisions after taking inputs from his field
    commanders and with final decision indisputable.

    Quality of decisions which were accurate timely – Imagine the time and space
    for the Indo-Pak War -1971 which was a 14 days of planned war

    Decision acceptance by the political leadership. Yielded highest performance
    during Liberation of Bangladesh with Minimum collateral damage

    Natural faith and confidence in Participative Leadership

    *Peace Time:* Delegation Commanders at all level had functional freedom
    within the given framework.

    Actively defined the goals to be achieved, Task oriented which Yielded high
    morale

    High standards of discipline and a Charismatic Leader

    Articulated Vision and Mission.

    Planned all the operations of war meticulously and achieved remarkable
    success in them.

    High moral courage and Taking Personal Risks.

    The Sittang Bridge defence episode and His firm and professional dealings
    with the bureaucracy and his firm and professional dealings with the
    bur.eaucracy and political leadership ‐ were a clear indicator.

    Sensitivity to Followers’ Needs.

    His dealing with the officers and men were of exemplary order raising the
    morale of the Troops of Indian Army through a telling defeat on Pakistan and
    looking after the troops of 54 Sikh are examples.

    Unconventional Behavior. His dressing style, the characteristic sense of
    humor and handling of the political masters.

    Charismatic Traits and Skills

    Authoritatively Stylish: Magnificently moustachioed, charming and dapper.
    Self confidence and self control:

    The quintessential soldier: cool and bold cool and bold • Personal Integrity
    Behaviour consistent with espoused values – honesty, ethical , trustworthy

    Irreverent and no apple polishing, Characteristic sense of Humour

    Interpersonal skills: He was an able listener, irrespective of how junior
    his interlocutor

    Transformational Traits and Skills

    Self confidence: Seminal and decisive. Internal Locus of control, life
    determined by own actions and not by chance or uncontrollable forces.
    Achievement orientation assumed responsibility, displayed desire to excel
    and drive to succeed

    Emotional Stability and Maturity

    Considerate to those under his command Above all, impervious to political
    pressure. Conceptual skills: Through earthiness and plain‐speak he motivated
    an army that achieved what no other army has achieved what no other army has
    done since the Second World War — liberating a nation.

    Even the US with all its might and technical wizardry, has not managed such
    a feat in the past years.

    *Types of power *

    *Legitimate Power:* Legitimate Power: Executive Authority on behalf of the
    President of India on Matters National and President of India on Matters
    National and Matters Military Expert Power: Had expertise on all Operations
    of War Faced bullets and death in war – awarded Military Cross for
    exceptional gallantry Had fought 5 wars ‐ decorated three times ‐ served the
    Nation for nearly 40 years

    *Referent Power:* The officers and men equally admired and identified with
    his charisma – they also behaved fearlessly and in upright manner to gain
    approval.

    Reward Power: He had the final say on the war and peace time citations and
    rewards

    *17. Some Famous Anecdotes *

    He surmised once: I wonder whether those of our political masters who have
    been put in charge of the defence of the country can distinguish a mortar
    from a motor; a gun from a howitzer; a guerrilla from a gorilla, although a
    great many resemble the latter.

    Once the PM reportedly confronted him with rumours that he was planning a
    coup against her…… He is said to have replied: “Don’t you think I would be a
    worthy replacement for you, prime minister? You have long nose and So have
    I. But I don’t poke my nose into other people’s affairs

    Once when at a presidential banquet, he told Prime Minister Indira Gandhi
    “You look very pretty tonight” Surrounded by her ministers, she blushed and
    said “Thank you, Sam”

    How many chiefs would refuse to call the prime minister ‘Madame’ on the
    grounds that it would be impolite to use a word more appropriate in bawdy
    houses? “I’m always ready, sweetie”. On being asked by Indira Gandhi about
    the Indian Army’s readiness for the Indo-Pak War of 1971. However, later he
    frankly explained his views on the Prime Ministers suggestion. He even
    offered to give his letter of resignation on this issue. There is a very
    interesting talk available on this issue in a link on “youtube”.

    You received three at this age; when I was of your age, I received nine
    bullets and look today I am the Commander in Chief of the Indian Army. During the 1971 Indo‐Pakistan War when he met an injured soldier in Army Hospital with three bullet wounds.

    To an interviewer about a row of Barbie dolls in his house promptly
    explained: “I always wanted to play with dolls When I was young my mom
    wouldn’t allow me to, then my wife came along, and I still was not allowed
    to. Finally, I told myself, ‘now I am the Field Marshall, I will damn well
    do as I please and went and got myself the dolls! ” Sam Manekshaw married
    Siloo in 1939. When she died in 2001, those who knew him in Wellington
    observed, that its only then did age begin to show on him.

    *Speech to gentlemen cadets at IMA, Dehradun on March 30, 1972,* Manekshaw
    said You are going to be given command of troops in an operational area.
    Your task will be to administer the needs and to lead them in battle. What
    sort of men will you be commanding? You will be leading and dealing with
    veterans? You will be leading those who have fought wars, men who have won
    wars, men who are used to good things. Make sure you give them the best of
    leadership. Make it very clear to them, what you expect from them and also
    what you can give them. It was universally felt by all gentlemen cadets,
    that his speech, his bearing and the suggested grace was more important in
    victory than in defeat.

    *Recollections of Some People who came in Contact *

    1. I recollect my meeting with Manekshaw at the Mumbai airport a couple of
    years ago. While waiting at the departure lounge, I saw the Field Marshal
    walk in with an attendant in tow. I went across from where I was sitting to
    greet him. He shook my hand warmly and was surprised when I asked him for
    his autograph. “My autograph, what will you do with it son ” he asked. I
    replied that I would show it to my children, and preserve it for generations
    to come. He obliged. It was one of the best moments of my life. *T.V. Suresh

    2. I had the proud privilege of seeing or meeting Sam Manekshaw on three
    different occasions.

    *First time,* when I was a Cadet under training in Khadakwasla, when he
    visited National Defence Academy in the year 1961-62 as Maj Gen while
    commanding a Division in Eastern Sector. We were absolutely impressed with
    his great personality.

    *Second time, in Oct-Nov 1971* when the liberation of Bangladesh was
    imminent and the Indo-Pak War just in the offing. I was posted on the
    Western Front. He addressed all officers and Jawans in J & K and advised
    “Gentle Men, please ensure the excellent reputation of the Army and do not
    ever do anything wrong in the war which was soon coming. Your behaviour with
    the civilians and especially the helpless women should be above board. Still
    if you are compelled to do anything wrong, please remember me and put your
    hands in your pockets and I assure you nothing wrong will happen”.

    *Third time,* after his retirement at Bangalore Airport- He remarked “that
    even after commanding one of the biggest Armies of the world and fighting so
    many battles in my lifetime, I am unable to command one person, and that is
    this lady – My Wife”. Then, I had a number of presentation files in my hand.
    He remarked, “Young man, you must have worked really hard in producing these
    files. Frankly, if I were you, I wouldn’t do them up, coz its easier to take
    a “rocket” than to do this stupid work. No doubt he was a soldier par
    excellence and highly quick and sharp witted. His memories will ever be
    cherished.

    *One of his many famous quotes*

    *”If anyone tells you he is never afraid, he is a liar or he is a Gurkha.”*

  20. bvkulkarni Says:

    Less said the better of HDK and Deve gowda clan. They are not knowing Gandhi and Anna Hazare. How can we expect HDK or HDD to know of Gandhiji, they are soiled sons of soil.
    Though HDD lived during JP movement, he was untouched by JP and JP movement.

  21. Sanjeeva Says:

    Idannu keli Kannadigaru dhanyaradaru. Aha, Karnataka mate, entaha dhurinarannu namage neediddeeya!

  22. vjair Says:

    High time we accept the truth. Regardless of his (HDK) merits/de-merits/intent, he is speaking truth. Any body who doesn’t think so, try fighting an election.

    Even with all the documents/evidence he produced in front of the media & to the lokayuktha nothing has happened to BSY. That’s where as a society & the pillars supporting the democracy we are failing the democracy.

  23. adarsh Says:

    A Pretatma Commenting on Mahatma

  24. DailyBread Says:

    @ Colonel,

    Sir, whats your point? why are you wasting bandwidth?

    @Vjair

    >nothing has happened to BSY.

    whats his crime? what should have happened to him?

    >That’s where as a society & the pillars supporting the democracy we are failing the democracy.

    As we speak the democracy is in full action in a neighboring state called Tamilnadu, where direct cash transfers to society & to the pillars supporting the democracy have been successfully implemented. Paisa phek tamasha dekh, corruption is a non issue. If you don’t believe me, ask Manmohan Singh who is campaigning in Tamilnandu…..

  25. ALIVEalways Says:

    Someone who has openly stated that Mahatma Gandhi could be corrupt, cannot be trusted with the political affairs forever. Politics may be considered jammed by corruption but still there may be some good people there, and to claim that there is none, disheartens me.
    Instead of assuring me that he would fight it, he states that Gandhi himself would be corrupt, does he want us to believe that he is corrupt. Gandhi in times of British rule was offered better, than in which he had fared, the times were violent, they were void of citizen rights, but still he carried on. That speaks a lot and cannot be understated.

  26. the colonel Says:

    Dear Daily Bread:

    the only point is that im blunt.

    bandwidth ? no probs there sir, have you not noticed the Drivel called News.

    And Baba Ramdev: Yesterday a Jawan threw his boots at him, and stated that i have come here for yoga and not your drivel.

    Few people know this

  27. Mysore Peshva Says:

    Which worthy sought to hear Shri. Kumaraswamy’s opinion of the Mahatma?? What sort of response did he/she expect?

  28. Pulikeshi the Last Says:

    Another political miracle in our midst, Siddharamayya, said the same thing two years ago. It didn’t seem to bother anybody then.

  29. maisuru Says:

    Lokayukta and Upa Lokayukta have been around for little over three decades. Level of Corruption has only quad tripled in the interregnum. There are rumours that one of our famous Ex-Lokayukta was corrupt and known to blackmail the targets. What makes one think Lokapal will be any different ?

    Why there is corruption in Government offices ? Most often it is to get your work done without delay and harassment from the Babudom. In this regard MP was the first state to introduce what is known as Right to Service Act and Bihar will follow suit soon.

    This is more practical and what common man wants !

  30. Gaby Says:

    Indeed who was the fool that asked this ‘kashtavadhani’ to comment on the ‘Ashtavadhani’ !

  31. V.R.Anil Kumar Says:

    ಕತ್ತೆಗೇನು ಗೊತ್ತು ಕಸ್ತೂರಿಯ ಪರಿಮಳ

  32. twistleton Says:

    Gandhi was a rarity among people, and so is Anna Hazare.

    But the rest of us are ordinary mortals and Law should keep that in mind.

  33. Sanjeeva Says:

    Adarsh, I liked the pun. But where is the Atma first of all?! Bap Ser toh beta sava ser!

  34. Deepak Says:

    One should not be so harsh with HDK. He probably equates his respected father with the Mahatma. And when daddy dear can be so corrupt, why not the mahatma – that is HDK’s logic!!!

    But on a serious note – one can understand HDK’s frustration, he has moved heaven and earth to remove Yeddy, nothing has worked and that frustration is the reason for his loony statements.

  35. Vasant Says:

    HDK atleast dared to speak his mind. Politicians of all party are party to corruption in one or the other way now and lack of electoral reforms pushes every politician to hoard tonnes of money to fight the next election. Unless some very basic reforms in electoral process, pushing more federal structure for India and downsizing government take place, there is no way people can escape from the clutches of corruption.

  36. pdp Says:

    Gowdara aata ballavaryaaru
    HDK is misquoted, he said Gandhi, not MK Gandhi, but probably Rajiv Gandhi or Indira Gandhi ( who were already corrupt )

  37. adarsh Says:

    @Sanjeeva

    Thanks! I am happy that you liked it & yah! Truly, “where is the Atma?”
    Ha ha haa..

    Perhaps! Disgusted with his (HDK’s) ways, both Honesty & his Atma have left him simultaneously (& long ago)…

  38. Niharika Says:

    @pdp
    I think HDK will appoint you as Lawyer if ever he is tried in the court of law for that statement…
    You are giving such a good excuse

  39. pyaare Says:

    @the colonel
    oye colonel !! thaand rakh thaand…
    &always remember the fact,”jaisi Praja waisa Raja”
    So when each & every individual of this country will strive to change for good, only then this country would change.
    Let God give us the patience & will to achieve that !

  40. dr ramesh Says:

    diagnosis first, treatment next . accept that corruption is killing india ,then find a solution.this is the essence of HDK’s statement. he has come out with the truth with good intention of bringing in reforms in electoral system and ending caste based politics. but sadly bjp-rss minded journalists , cheddi brand thinkers distorted his statements. people like rama jois ,mr .shenoy, are so deeply entrenched in bjp-rss corrupt ideologies that they cant stand up to any one opposing it.

  41. mounaprasad Says:

    Dr. Ramesappa,

    >> with good intention of bringing in reforms in electoral system and ending caste based politics>>

    Do you really believe that Sin of the soil and grand sin of the soil can really do this ;)

  42. jagadeesha Says:

    Nothing wrong in his statement, we must understand the reality, indian politics is full of corrupt people. otherwise it would be difficult for them to contest election without expenses.

  43. appu Says:

    hi hdk first look at ur plate then talk about congress and bjp u dont have right to talk bec u r the most corrupt person in india,where is ur 25 lakh watch, how kasturi channel came ,how u r managing radhika etc first answer these question and talk about gandhji and all….bloody indian

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