POLL: Has UPA ‘fooled’ the people on Lok Pal?

The four-decade-old quest for an independent and effective Lok Pal has entered a crucial phase once again with the tabling of the parliamentary standing committee’s report and its immediate rejection of it by the Anna Hazare-led section of civil society as a “dupe” played on the nation by the Congress-led UPA government.

17 of the 30 members of the parliament panel have reportedly given dissent notes to the version presented by Abhishek Manu Singhvi, whose late jurist-father L.M. Singhvi is believed to have coined the word “Lokpal”. And of the 24 issues concerning the bill, the members agreed on just 13 of them.

Barring the creation of a Lok Pal, a cursory glance at the table above shows how little ground the standing committee  found with the demands of Anna Hazare, who has twice sat on a fast-unto-death. Little wonder, the man from Ralegan Siddhi says the government has “fooled the people of India” even as he prepares to sit on a fresh fast.

Questions: has the government fooled the people? Or is “Team Anna” stretching itself? Will a fresh agitation catch the people’s fancy again, or has the government discredited Arvind Kejriwal, Kiran Bedi, Prashant Bhushan and Shanti Bhushan enough to take the wind out of their sails?

Will the parliament panel’s recommendations find favour with parliamentarians? Or is the Lok Pal bill likely to run into serious trouble with the Opposition?

Infograph: courtesy Mail Today

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12 Responses to “POLL: Has UPA ‘fooled’ the people on Lok Pal?”

  1. Augustine Kuriapilly Says:

    Lok pal bill or Jan Lok pal bill or UPA Government’s concoction of a Bill by the name Strong and Effective Lok pal bill, the only thing an ordinary citizen like me would like to see is change in the delivery of services to the citizens without having to pay bribe. I began to take interest once Anna Hazare began leading a movement towards bringing about corruptionless governance. I learned that it was over 42 years since the first Anti-corruption bill was introduced in our parliament and nine such bills were introduced later. Now when these men began reaching out to the people and teaching the common man about the need to fight for rights, the government has moved deviously to prosecute its protagonists. I am beginning to suspect that those in power are fighting hard to ward off jail terms if not for themselves but for their dear benefactors.

  2. Jayashree Says:

    The UPA has been doing this in all fronts from the time they came to power. Not just fooled- DUPED! We the people of India deserve this as we forget all this for nothing!

  3. Venkatarama Muthuswami Says:

    Growth and development have been stalled practically in all areas.
    No one seems responsible and has authority to revive the economy with realistic planning and imaginative strategies that can take people into confidence.

    We have a PM sitting screwed in the Ghadi, with some fake responsibility, but NO authority for anything. We have a FDI (Foreign Direct Individual) who seems to wield all the power and authority behind the curtain, but has NO responsibility or accountability.

    We have a Parliament whose average IQ level should be much much above average, and yet it is dysfunctional and a big drain on nation’s resources and tax payers burden. Probably, the Canteen in the parliament should be working overtime, again at tax payers cost because of feeding the useless guys called our representatives.

    Who you think is going to fight corruption?

  4. Venkatarama Muthuswami Says:

    Both the politicians and people on both sides of Kerala and TN have been at each others throat because of the dam. No one with saner mind seems prepared to sit and sort out the whole issue in a win-win manner. The crux of the whole trouble seems to a commoner like me is this:

    **TN wants to be assured to regular water supply from the dam to produce food, a sizeable portion obviously goes to Kerala to feed our friends over there. They seem to have plenty of money from Gulf and elsewhere, but short of essential food items.

    **Kerala fears the dam, being older than 100 yrs, might burst and destroy people and property (if this happens, I believe, people on both sides of the border will be affected).

    **TN remains adamant, based on the expert evaluation of engineers et al, that the dam is safe and can take more weight of concrete and sand to increase storage without any fear of bust.

    ** Whether politically motivated or otherwise, the Kerala people (at least those in the border areas) seem not convinced of TN argument;

    What should be the common sense argument, to resolve the issue without damage to public properties and peace.

    1. We donot need to live with experts coming from faraway, but we are bound to live on both sides of the border (Kerala & TN) – so take the fear and concern of people seriously.

    2. If Kerala can promise the quantum of water to TN not to be affected by the construction of a new dam, then sit with them and have the whole project implemented in a win-win situation.

    3.Elevate people to higher level of understanding: water is God (or Allah or Jesus) given for humanity for proper CARING AND SHARING.

    4. Let all of us think for a while: by fighting and dividing us in the name of state, language, religion, caste, community, etc. will make our lives futile and unworthy of humans of this great planet.

  5. harkol Says:

    UPA is morally bankrupt cabal, hoisted on the nation by a feudal congress, with a front man who is seen to be honest, but ineffective. I can almost visualize in him a Dritharashtra, who did nothing when Kauravas exceeded all Moral boundaries. At times I even wonder if our PM can even be called honest, when his less than honest acts have given us a questionable CVC, murderous police actions on peaceful protesters.

    There is a huge resentment against congress. The sad part is it is not channelized well by opposition. Should Opposition form a reasonable alliance, Congress will be reduced to double digits in next election.

  6. pdk Says:

    1. Is the information conveyed by the statement: “17 of the 30 members of the parliament panel have reportedly given dissent notes”? Is it actually information or just noise? Have they dissented against the entire report or individuals points? For instance, Lalloo Yadav’s dissent is for a quota in the Lokpal. Natarajan’s and three other Cong MPs is for Group C employees to be brought under the Lokpal.

    2. Was the parliamentary panel obliged to include Anna’s demands?

    3. Aren’t there reasonable for-and-against arguments about each of the issues listed in the table?

    4. Isn’t this how law-making is supposed to work?

    5. What is the opinion of the 1.12 billion people of India on this? Can we say the report has fooled them all?

    I vote ‘No’.

  7. dr ramesh Says:

    Anna hazare and his team has to apologise to the entire nation for misleading it. He had promised in august that his was non-political, pro-people agitation, but after 3 months, true colour is emerging. Sharing the stage with bjp and company,the agitation has lost all credibility.inclusion of prime minister in lokpal will lead administrative paralysis,and may have internal security overhang. Anti-india forces may try to sabotage prime minister through misuse of lokpal. Team anna conviniently forgets about ngo corruption( bigger than 2g scam) ,corporate corruption. Manu singhvi and team consists of mp’s with great legal expertise, i support democracy over mobocracy by endorsing abhishek manu singhvi .

  8. R S Chaudhary Says:

    A group of people self declared civil society Team Ann has created a condition against Indian state, which has long lasting effect on Indian polity. Team Ann says that they have framed a lokpal bill so called Jan lokpal bill, that bill is most suited to the India. Now question arise whether the provisions of Jan Lokpal Bill are as suitable as they cannot put under debate in Parliament. What are the contentious provisions of jan lokpal and what are their effect on Indian State. Now it needs to be analyzed:
    Prime Minister: PM can be investigated with permission of seven member Lokpal bench. I think it is not so, because Primister is elected by 120 crore people of India. Since we have adopted the Parliamentary system of democracy. Members of Parliament are being elected by the people of India and these Member of Parliament elects the Priminister of India. So until Parliamentary System of Government is present in India, through Parliament Priminister is Supreme. By questioning the supremacy of Priminister we are questioning the Supremacy of constitution. How one cans belief that if Priminister of India is dishonest then lokpal will not be dishonest. Otherwise if we have to faith someone. Why that is not Priminister, Why that is Lokpal.
    Judiciary, Judiciary Can be investigated, though high level members may be investigated only with permission of a seven member Lokpal bench: it means Lokpal is above the Judiciary. 3 crore 27 lacks cases are pending before Judiciary. When we put Judiciary under Lokpal due to fear of prosecution no Judge will decide any case. No decision no mistake no prosecution by Lokpal.From Supreme Court to lower courts there are thousands of Judges. The problem of Judiciary is not the corruption, problem is delay in decision. If judiciary will be brought under Lokpal certainly decisions will be delayed due to fear.
    Conduct of Member of Parliament Conduct of Member of Parliament can be investigated with permission of seven member Lokpal bench: Suppose any member has put a bill which is in favor of a larger group and adversely affecting to a small segment of the society. If that group makes a complaint against that MP that MP has ulterior motive to benefit a group of people so Lokpal should start prosecution against that MP. How you expect that MPs will perform their duties in Parliament.
    Lower Bureaucracy: all public servants would be included: Jan Local is adopting the Singapore modle.The population of Singapore is lesser than that total number of central government employees. Regarding lower bureaucracy it needs to be reconsidered. There is a Hindi proverb”Eakai sade sab sadhe; Sab sade sab jai” .If you will punish to a central minister or secretary of central government, lower employees will automatically stop corruption. Instead of punishing 100 lekhpal, gram secretery, punish a collector of a district, lekhpal will automatically stop corruption. If district collector has no interest in corruption why he will protect to his sub ordinates. I have seen a film. In that film when teacher came to the class students starts shooting, one teacher leave the class another also leave the class after beating one two student. No teacher was ready to teach the class. Ultimately a teacher agrees to teach the class. When he reached the class students started hooting, teacher did not showed any response to the hooting. He continued teaching keeping in mind which student is master mind of this activity. Ultimately he came to know that son of chairman of the college is master mind behind whole drama. He gone to that student and put two hands on his mouth. Whole class had pin drop silence. It is almost impossible to tackle the corruption from Pradha to Pradhan Mantri. Check the corruption at top level, lower corruption will automatically stop. As I have stated earlier 3 crore 27 lacks cases are pending before judiciary. Due to abundance of cases of least importance cases of higher importance remain neglected. Similarly if whole employees will be put under Lokpal, corruption at apex level cannot be controlled.
    As Jan Lokpal says Lokpal should have power to entertain complaints against anyone can enquire the case and start prosecution and sentence punishment. It means Lokpal is omnipotent. He can do anything. When constitution was laid down, three wings of government were framed. Legislative to frame laws, executive to execute laws and judiciary to keep eyes on act of legislative and executive. But if Judiciary crosses its limit parliament has power to check the Judiciary. But when Lokpal will cross the limit that will check Lokpal. I want to tell you a story. In a village there was a farmer. he had a warehouse to store wheat and rice. That warehouse became infested with rats. Farmer start thinking how these rats can be controlled. He had three options one he can use poison, can use mouse traps, or can kill the rat by beating by sticks. Instead of using these measures he put a snake to remove the rats. After some days rats had been finished. One day when farmer gone inside the warehouse to collect bag of rice, that snake bite the farmer and farmer was dead. Wheater we are not heading toward rearing snake to kill rats.
    I have seen the film Gazni. When Mr. Aamir Khan says that there is thin line of division between confidence and ahankar. When I say I can do it. It is my confidence but when I say that only I can do it .It is my Ahankar. Only my Lokpal is Right. I think it cames under second category. Rules are framed in Parliament not on road. Pl doesn’t destroy the constitutional system. Otherwise it will be painful to whole of India not only to Congress.
    Country has number of effective laws they need proper execution. Before 6 years Bihar was a lawless state with least growth rate. Now Bihar is second fastest growing state of India. Constitutional provisions and laws are same as they were before, but person has changed the scenario. Country needs good people along with good laws. Please do not make Indian democracy mobocracy.Team

  9. Suneel Sardana Says:

    Congress lead UPA was,is & will never be interested to introduce & get passed any such bill which could eradicate/reduce CORRUPTION as they are & will continue to be biggest corrupt & gainers of corruption.They are not only befooling people of India but have shown the AUKAT to Mammohan Singh & Pranam Babu.
    HAVE STANDING COMMITTEE OF CONGRESS & CO. NOT GROSSLY INSULTED BOTH HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT BY PRESENTING MINORITY REPORT TO CABINET ON ONE PERSON INSTRUCTION?

  10. Kitapati Says:

    My 11 year old son knows how to be (theoritically through his Civics lessons) MLA, MP, Minister, cheif minister, governor, prime Minister and president. Now he is asking me he wants to be part of lok pal when he grows up. What do i answer? Can Anna Hazare supporters help me answer this and give lok pal qualifications and requirements to my son.

  11. pdk Says:

    kitapati,

    Tell him not to worry his little head about it. The selection panel will come to him. Let him concentrate on becoming an eminence in the meantime.

  12. twistleton Says:

    @RS Chaudhary.

    A gem of a post :) – for both ideas and imagery.

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